Speculation: Trade Deadline Episode II - zzzzzzzzzzz

[JaegerDice]

He would have cost us Schmaltz or Pokka so I think it is a blessing going forward next year that we did not get him. We can win with this D.

True.

I'm not particularly high on Schmaltz, personally. I still think Stan should have picked Fabbri.

 

[piteus]

True.

I'm not particularly high on Schmaltz, personally. I still think Stan should have picked Fabbri.

Outside the top ~10 picks, the draft is a guessing game. We'll see how Schmaltz is when we sign him.

 

[JaegerDice]

Outside the top ~10 picks, the draft is a guessing game. We'll see how Schmaltz is when we sign him.

Thats true, but Fabbri was pretty universally considered the better prospect heading into the draft. I didnt see a single list that had him higher than Fabbri.

 

[Gooner]

Thats true, but Fabbri was pretty universally considered the better prospect heading into the draft. I didnt see a single list that had him higher than Fabbri.

He's more skilled than Fabbri. And because of the draft being kind of a crapshoot outside of the top picks, choosing the prospect with the higher upside makes sense, we aren't exactly dependant on our draft picks working out right now, so gambling on a player with a high ceiling, but a lower chance of working out at all kinda makes sense. Would have preffered Fabbri too though.

 

[AlphaBravo]

Hey Hawks fans, Kings fan coming in peace. What's the scouting report on Versteeg? I know he played well for you guys in the 2010 cup run, but was a healthy scratch in 2015. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thx.

 

[SAADfather]

Hey Hawks fans, Kings fan coming in peace. What's the scouting report on Versteeg? I know he played well for you guys in the 2010 cup run, but was a healthy scratch in 2015. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thx.

Personally, I dont think he'll fit well in your system. He seems like a guy that Sutter is not going to like at all. He definitely has a decent amount of offensive skill, can make some good passes but can make some completely boneheaded plays. The Kris Versteeg special is trying to dangle breaking it out of the zone and losing the puck. Last year he had a great start to the year but it was mostly because he played on a line with Kane. He was just downright bad and contributed nothing in the playoffs and then started get scratched. He had a pretty good game or two when he drew back in in the SCF. The talent is there, he just does way too much stupid ****. Maybe Sutter can beat the stupidity out of him, who knows.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Versteeg sees a couple healthy scratches in the playoffs when Gabby is back.

 

[AlphaBravo]

Personally, I dont think he'll fit well in your system. He seems like a guy that Sutter is not going to like at all. He definitely has a decent amount of offensive skill, can make some good passes but can make some completely boneheaded plays. The Kris Versteeg special is trying to dangle breaking it out of the zone and losing the puck. Last year he had a great start to the year but it was mostly because he played on a line with Kane. He was just downright bad and contributed nothing in the playoffs and then started get scratched. He had a pretty good game or two when he drew back in in the SCF. The talent is there, he just does way too much stupid ****. Maybe Sutter can beat the stupidity out of him, who knows.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Versteeg sees a couple healthy scratches in the playoffs when Gabby is back.

Thanks for the insight. I saw some of his highlights and see what you mean about dangling the puck across the neutral zone. That could piss off Sutter. I don't think he would be fit for our bottom six, which is focused more on dump and chase/cycling of the puck. Hopefully he fits well with Carter and Pearson.

 

[bwana63]

Steeger is all over the map. You will love him and hate him...all in one shift. He has skills, but he can be very maddening. Look for Sutter's carotid to be throbbing.

 

[Killer Boots Man]

Steeger is all over the map. You will love him and hate him...all in one shift. He has skills, but he can be very maddening. Look for Sutter's carotid to be throbbing.

Agreed. A play that exemplifies this was in last year's playoffs (forgot which round), when Steeger stole the puck from the D man right in front of the goal, made a great, aggressive move to the net, tripped himself up at the last second , whiffed on the puck badly while off balanced and went crashing painfully into the goal post.

Not only did he not score, he also got called for a goalie interference penalty on the play and I think the other team scored on the PP.

 

[SAADfather]

Agreed. A play that exemplifies this was in last year's playoffs (forgot which round), when Steeger stole the puck from the D man right in front of the goal, made a great, aggressive move to the net, tripped himself up at the last second , whiffed on the puck badly while off balanced and went crashing painfully into the goal post.

Not only did he not score, he also got called for a goalie interference penalty on the play and I think the other team scored on the PP.

Lol I wish you had a video of this because this seems like a perfect example of summing up Versteeg in one play.

 

[Killer Boots Man]

Lol I wish you had a video of this because this seems like a perfect example of summing up Versteeg in one play.

Ask and you shall receive...

https://youtu.be/8drGMyjyzMg

 

[stefa]

Hey Hawks fans, Kings fan coming in peace. What's the scouting report on Versteeg? I know he played well for you guys in the 2010 cup run, but was a healthy scratch in 2015. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thx.

Better than Karlsson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWYZgF2udg

 

[theaub]

Ask and you shall receive...

(link)

 

[SAADfather]

Ah yes, I remember that actually.

 

[Venthon]

Ah yes, I remember that actually.

God that pissed me off when it happened. Especially the GI call.

 

[AlphaBravo]

Better than Karlsson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWYZgF2udg

Ouch. How in the world is that goalie interference? Nice play by Steeg though.

 

[piteus]

Steeger is all over the map. You will love him and hate him...all in one shift. He has skills, but he can be very maddening. Look for Sutter's carotid to be throbbing.

Perfect description of Versteeg. I refuse to get fooled again. Be careful ... he'll lure you in and then proceed to break your heart.

 

[SAADfather]

Ouch. How in the world is that goalie interference? Nice play by Steeg though.

Yeah I do remember being terribly angry at that call at the time. In real time it looked like we should have gotten a PP out of it but in all reality he just toe picked.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Versteeg is like life. Life is like a box of chocolates.

Quite simply, you never know what you're gonna get with Versteeg.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Bobby Mac confirms a trade involving Bickell + assets for Higgins + Hamhuis was on table but Nucks decided not to pursue it

 

[JaegerDice]

Bobby Mac confirms a trade involving Bickell + assets for Higgins + Hamhuis was on table but Nucks decided to pursue it

All the interviews I've heard have him saying that deal was complex and proposed late, so they didn't have enough time to sort it out before the deadline.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

I think trading Bickell will still be a real possibility this offseason, especially with some salary retention. He'll only have a year left on his deal.

 

[Venthon]

All the interviews I've heard have him saying that deal was complex and proposed late, so they didn't have enough time to sort it out before the deadline.

I'm sorry but if that's the case it's a ******** one. You're not sniffing the playoffs, and even if you happen to by pure luck you're going nowhere. Take what you can get for UFA's and run with it.

I don't care if it was "complex" or "proposed late" you take the offer and actually DO SOMETHING with it.

If that's Bennings actual attitude here then I'm seriously underpaid because what the actual **** is he doing as GM of ANY team? Christ, I'd do better and I don't even think I'd be good.

 

[SAADfather]

I think trading Bickell will still be a real possibility this offseason, especially with some salary retention. He'll only have a year left on his deal.

They retain 50% to a crappy team who trys to play him up and retains 50% at the deadline. If Bickell has somewhat decent of a year he can be an attractive piece at the deadline for 1m.

 

[bwana63]

I'm sorry but if that's the case it's a ******** one. You're not sniffing the playoffs, and even if you happen to by pure luck you're going nowhere. Take what you can get for UFA's and run with it.

I don't care if it was "complex" or "proposed late" you take the offer and actually DO SOMETHING with it.

If that's Bennings actual attitude here then I'm seriously underpaid because what the actual **** is he doing as GM of ANY team? Christ, I'd do better and I don't even think I'd be good.

It was an attempt to placate Canucks fans. A very lame attempt.

Benning sucks. I'm sure the deal was complex, but WTF? VAN fans should be irate.