GDT: Trade Deadline Day - Mod warning post #1

[nuck]

Did we do anything other then bring in the much needed Rosen?

Who knew that would be his big get? Im kind of tired of the own-rental crap but if all that was out there was deals then what was there to do?

I've gotta say I probably would have rented Demelo and trade Barrie for whatever but he stuck with his guy.

They could still be the playoffs and Barrie could still have a big series. Its not Kadri for Kerfoot until they are out. I. Not saying I expect that but Shanny and Dubas do.

BTW Dubas does not idle today without Shanahans approval.

 

[PhiladelphiaKessel]

Why we basically traded kadri for kerfoot

Just because the original trade was awful doesn’t mean we have to try and salvage it at all costs. What if Barrie would have only returned a 2nd? Would ppl feel better if it was kadri for kerfoot + 2nd? I doubt it

 

[Fogelhund]

A very small side note:

I’m surprised Bracco didn’t get moved.

Look, this is nothing more than speculation.... but it is my opinion that there is something going on with Bracco, that is beyond hockey. He isn't sitting out, because he's unhappy with his situation. There is either a health, physical or mental issue that he, or someone very close to him is going through. If it was just unhappiness with him not getting a chance, absolutely we'd see Dubas move him, as he's done in other situations. Something is going on with Bracco, and best wishes for him, in whatever he is going through.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Not really surprised Barrie didn't get moved. Looked like he was intentionally tanking his value with the way he played Saturday.

 

[pspot]

disappointed they didn't sell but then to see guys i think they could use going for not much (vatanen, goodrow, forbort, gustafsson, ritchie, etc

 

[rimshot]

Did we do anything other then bring in the much needed Rosen?

Dubas had a series of trades negotiated with other teams but when they went to register them with the League Office, the office replied that Mr Dubas trading privileges been revoked by the MLSE Board of Directors.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Assets that walked for nothing recently:

Bozak
JVR
Barrie

Anyone else?

Gross. Boston and Tampa are just way ahead in terms of management.

Keeping Bozak and JVR were at least somewhat defensible moves, because we had a legitimate shot of advancing past the first round of the playoffs that season.

There is absolutely no justification for keeping Barrie other than a pipe dream.

 

[shortfuze]

MLSE just cares about those 2 or 3 playoff dates, that's all. Dubas wouldn't be allowed to sell anyone even if he wanted. I am not happy with this half ass approach. They still want playoffs but not actually doing anything to improve our chances.

Who is better than Barrie that they could have brought in going into the playoffs? They are 15th in the league with their number 1D out. Not to mention all the other injuries they’ve had this year. If they are lucky and can stay healthy, they look pretty good on paper.

 

[Fogelhund]

The only question that is relevant to me is "Is Stetcher better defensively than Barrie?" And if the answer is yes, then we've failed to improve a critical area of need despite reasonable opportunity to do so.

No, defense isn't a vacuum to it's own... just as offense isn't. The question always is, and always will be, is the team better NET of what that player brings... and I don't think Stetcher is better NET, than Barrie.

 

[Menzinger]

He's likely going get 30 goals this year though. He's a good player.

Nobody would really care if it wasn't that team who acquired him.

Hes having a good season, but thats not the kind of contract id give out to a player with his offensive history.

Reminds me a bit on the Clarkson deal. Paying big money of a guy based on a limited sample size of playing well

 

[Cor]

Hopefully Barrie continues his strong play and we can get a deal done. Even if we trade him next year or next summer, an extension can make sense

 

[Fogelhund]

There is absolutely no justification for keeping Barrie other than a pipe dream.

Except when the return offered, wouldn't have made us better this year, or next....

 

[Menzinger]

The only question that is relevant to me is "Is Stetcher better defensively than Barrie?" And if the answer is yes, then we've failed to improve a critical area of need despite reasonable opportunity to do so.

The problem is hes arbitrstion eligible snd if hes awarded less than 4 mil the team would be stuck with him. Amd 3ish mil would be too mich for a guy whose bottom pairing level.

Hes better defensively than Barrie but thats not necessarily enough to justofy a trade like that imo. Especially since he always has zero puck skills

 

[hullsy47]

Dubas had a series of trades negotiated with other teams but when they went to register them with the League Office, the office replied that Mr Dubas trading privileges been revoked by the MLSE Board of Directors.

It's pretty much right
I think if the leafs miss the playoffs hes gone

 

[shortfuze]

A tale of 2 cities ULF.
We both sucked for about as long, at the same time.
They built through the backend, added skill to the front (reasonable contracts) and have a solid work ethic.

We paid 4 forwards huge, ignored the back and are still trying to figure out if they care.

Which philosophy is looking better.

And now Toronto can focus on the backend. It’s not just the backend that’s the problem. The team defence needs to be better.

 

[Kiwi]

Hopefully Barrie continues his strong play and we can get a deal done. Even if we trade him next year or next summer, an extension can make sense

So double down on the stupid, bold stuff

 

[DougGilmour93]

This organization is pure garbage.
I will not watch a single game moving forward until the likes of Dubas and Keefe are gone. Heck maybe even Shanahan.

Been a fan since 88. This team doesn’t deserve us as fans. Sure, go ahead and rip me a new one and say how much of a baby I am. I don’t care. Have fun continuing to be duped by this organization that doesn’t give 2 shitz about you.

 

[dubplatepressure]

No, defense isn't a vacuum to it's own... just as offense isn't. The question always is, and always will be, is the team better NET of what that player brings... and I don't think Stetcher is better NET, than Barrie.

We're going to score our way out of this situation? got it.

 

[hullsy47]

what the hell are you talking about? The mental gymnastics in here is always amazing

No Barrie walking for nothing even worse if the leafs dont make the playoffs

 

[Dragao6]

Just because the original trade was awful doesn’t mean we have to try and salvage it at all costs. What if Barrie would have only returned a 2nd? Would ppl feel better if it was kadri for kerfoot + 2nd? I doubt it

Well yes
Barrie for a 2nd is always better then barrie for 0

 

[cannucky]

why would anybody give anything for Barrie ? he's going to Van for free on July 1st , no point giving anything for him now , Tanev , Stecher and Fantenberg are all up for new deals this summer they can use Barrie against them and them against Barrie .

 

[MyBudJT]

This organization is pure garbage.
I will not watch a single game moving forward until the likes of Dubas and Keefe are gone. Heck maybe even Shanahan.

Been a fan since 88. This team doesn’t deserve us as fans. Sure, go ahead and rip me a new one and say how much of a baby I am. I don’t care. Have fun continuing to be duped by this organization that doesn’t give 2 shitz about you.

I don’t agree with your perspective, but I understand it.

Fool me one:
Fool me twice:
Fool me 10000 times: Leafs fans are a crazy bunch, aren’t we...?

 

[CelticDruid]

Hopefully Barrie continues his strong play and we can get a deal done. Even if we trade him next year or next summer, an extension can make sense

The fans will boo Barrie out of town and I doubt he will sign here even if we had the cash to do so.

Why sign Barrie when Sundin will come in and play the same role, far cheaper and cost effective?

 

[cannucky]

It's the solid players that went for pucks or off the waiver wire that we should gave been in on that make Dubas due a trip to service canada .

 

[DougGilmour93]

I don’t agree with your perspective, but I understand it.

Fool me one:
Fool me twice:
Fool me 10000 times: Leafs fans are a crazy bunch, aren’t we...?

We deserve better. 53 years and we only had a sniff of the finals once since then. ONCE!