Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2022 - Off-season

[Leaf Rocket]

I feel like we still have unfinished business with Ottawa.

For real right? lol...

I am still very curious on how this off-season will shape up...I think it'll be an interesting one with many FA hitting the market.

 

[LBloor]

Yes I did, and he had a bad stretch but was solid after that. He's a worst a #5 who can play top 4 in a pinch. Like I said, worse players teams paid a decent price for. You're at worse getting a late 2nd or a 3rd from a team. Lets not make Leafs players worse than they are.

It's like people saying Nylander won't be highly valued because he's lazy

ok you go with that. Nylander I believe has very good valkue but he is a scorer, not a bad defender like Holl

 

[Stephen]

And Gaudreau is not staying with Calgary.

Things just got interesting.

Poor Calgary. But good for chaos. Just stay out of the Atlantic.

 

[Legion34]

Gaudreau leaving is the best thing for Toronto.
Dubas needs a reminder that you can’t just get a last minute deal

If Matty doesn’t sign next year you can’t walk hun to FA.

 

[al secord]

Johnny G and Malkin in Philly?

 

[stickty111]

ok you go with that. Nylander I believe has very good valkue but he is a scorer, not a bad defender like Holl

I will go with facts so yes I will. Holl is a good defender. He's just the whipping boy and his play no matter how good won't change that.

 

[Buds17]

Poor Calgary. But good for chaos. Just stay out of the Atlantic.

Guessing that it will be the Metropolitan which contains his next destination.

 

[Stephen]

Guessing that it will be the Metropolitan which contains his next destination.

If he goes to New Jersey or Philly, I wonder if his new team still fails to make the playoffs.

 

[Primary Assist]

I will go with facts so yes I will. Holl is a good defender. He's just the whipping boy and his play no matter how good won't change that.

As a closeted Holl fan myself (we go by the name Holl Monitors) I sympathize with your struggle. Holl is perfectly fine as a bottom pairing defenseman. He just happens to make very obvious errors despite his usually average to above average play

 

[Stephen]

I will go with facts so yes I will. Holl is a good defender. He's just the whipping boy and his play no matter how good won't change that.

Holl is a fairly average 5-6 defenseman who has the unique attribute of being a 6’4” wing span guy who can shunt traffic to the outside and break things up with his reach. Leafs get more mileage out of him letting him free wheel, but he’s only unique on a blueline that doesn’t normally value that body type.

 

[ULF_55]

Tomorrow we're having common signings.

 

[Leaffan1991]

Flames are imploding, we should go after Tkachuk while we can. Nylander plus Kerfoot

 

[stickty111]

As a closeted Holl fan myself (we go by the name Holl Monitors) I sympathize with your struggle. Holl is perfectly fine as a bottom pairing defenseman. He just happens to make very obvious errors despite his usually average to above average play

Yup. Fine player. I would look to trade him though because we have options and not because he's terrible or anything. He isn't needed anymore IMO

 

[Jozay]

Gaudreau leaving is the best thing for Toronto.
Dubas needs a reminder that you can’t just get a last minute deal

If Matty doesn’t sign next year you can’t walk hun to FA.

Dubas wont be calling that shot lol

 

[WTFMAN99]

Flames are imploding, we should go after Tkachuk while we can. Nylander plus Kerfoot

Tkachuk likely gonna be around Sandin and 88.

 

[DcW]

Tkachuk likely gonna be around Sandin and 88.

Hard to imagine Sutter signing off on bringing in Willy.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Hard to imagine Sutter signing off on bringing in Willy.

I thought Gaudreau and Sutter would be toxic but he had a great season.

 

[DcW]

Accommodating Tavares in his new flexible forward role is going to be kind of weird. He's still an elite faceoff man, true, so you line him up to take draws, and quite happy to do so.

But then you also need to pair him with a dependable two way center who can be tasked with puck transport and defensive coverage, but is relatively poor at taking faceoffs - since you wouldn't want to burn up a line with two elite faceoff takers. Maybe it's Marner, but if not, who does that guy look like?

Sounds like JT Miller to me.

 

[zeke]

Wish we were more like the Flames - make sure we don't overpay our best elite players so we can pay gritty depth like Coleman and Lucic instead.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Wish we were more like the Flames - make sure we don't overpay our best elite players so we can pay gritty depth like Coleman and Lucic instead.

They offered Gaudreau 10M x 8 apparently, I don't think it's a money thing at this point.

I do wonder at what point did they decide to not negotiate in season and why?

 

[BertCorbeau]

Tkachuk likely gonna be around Sandin and 88.

Not sure the difference between Nylander and Tkachuk is Sandin… but it’s an interesting proposal.

Tkachuk hasn’t exactly been that gray in the playoffs yet but I think some maturity in his style of game and he could be a big game changer.

 

[SprDaVE]

Hard to imagine Sutter signing off on bringing in Willy.

He hates good players?

 

[SprDaVE]

They offered Gaudreau 10M x 8 apparently, I don't think it's a money thing at this point.

I do wonder at what point did they decide to not negotiate in season and why?

Not enough. Should be 11M minimum.

 

[Jozay]

Wish we were more like the Flames - make sure we don't overpay our best elite players so we can pay gritty depth like Coleman and Lucic instead.

Doesnt sound like money is the reason they lost gaudreau...

 

[WTFMAN99]

Not sure the difference between Nylander and Tkachuk is Sandin… but it’s an interesting proposal.

Tkachuk hasn’t exactly been that gray in the playoffs yet but I think some maturity in his style of game and he could be a big game changer.

Not enough. Should be pushing 11M minimum.

I'd be willing to overpay for a unique element.

You think 11M for Gaudreau though? He's 28 and is he 2.5M better than Forsberg?