Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 - Post Deadline

[jaric1862]

I'm betting they offload Martinez for nothing similar to Fleury last year. Detroit would probably gladly take the hometown player with 2 cups to play alongside Seider for the next 2 years. Winnipeg probably gladly takes back Brossoit assuming Comrie leaves. Vegas then rolls out something like this with Smith taking closer to 5M:

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What website did you do this on, is this Evolving Wild?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

What does everyone think of these trades ?
To
Toronto
13th overall
Raty
Wahlstrom
Mayfield

To
Islanders
Nylander
Steeves
2023 1st top ten protected

To
Sens
Kerfoot

To
Toronto
Sens 2022 2nd

To
Dallas
Holl

To
Toronto
2022 3rd
2022 4th

To
Chicago
Mrazek
2024 2nd Leafs
2022 3rd Dallas
2022 3rd Leafs

To
Ducks
2022 1st Leafs
Robertson
Muzzin


To
Leafs
Gibson

To
Vegas
39th overall

To
Leafs
Roy

Leafs Retain 13th overall, and 115th overall.

Resign
Sandin 1.75 x 2
Liljegren 2 x 2
Engvall 1.65 x 1
Lyubushkin 1.75 x 2
Roy 2.5 x 3

Ufa
Copp 5.5 x 7
Athanasiou 3 x 3
Kessel 3 x 1
Zar 1.5 x 2
Comrie 1.2 x 2


Bunting Matthews Marner
Copp Tavares Wahlstrom
Athanasiou Roy Kessel
Zar Kampf Engvall

Reilly Brodie
Sandin Mayfield
Gio Liljegren
Lyubushkin

Gibson
Comrie

We also have Raty as a potential future 2c and the 13th overall to add to the prospect pool.

That 2nd line sucks.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

If Chicago doesn't qualify him, and the Leafs move out Kerfoot I want Kubalik.

Bunting Matthews Marner

Kubalik Tavares Nylander

Statsny Kampf Vatrano

That would give the Leafs 3 capable lines.

Still need to find the goalie but that's a deep top 9

 

[jiggy35]

He's a prime offer sheet candidate. If he gets a 4M offer sheet he's probably gone.

Classic offer sheet situation, the player needs to accept the offer sheet in the first place. How many desirable teams can afford 4+ for Third Line C? Only to have to re-up them a year later? I think the Kotka situation has created more buyer beware in this situation.

We could offer 2-3 years 2.5-3.5m and move out Kerfoot. Strength down the middle with Matthews-Tavares-Roy-Kampf.

Worst case start the year Mrazek-Brossoit and maybe go for Hellebucyk at the deadline and get rid of Mrazek then, although I’d rather get him for the entire season. Brossoit wasn’t great last year but I’ve always liked him in a back up role.

 

[Stigma]

Really hoping it will be … Gibson/Källgren But have a feeling it will be… Blackwood/Murray

If Murray is bought out and signed for cheap, I would be happy with option 2. Cost effective and a good chance that one of them steps up.

 

[Americanadian]

What website did you do this on, is this Evolving Wild?

It’s my own sheet. I used EvolvingWild data.

 

[BayStBullies]

That 2nd line sucks.

It could use a player like Nylander

 

[Americanadian]

Classic offer sheet situation, the player needs to accept the offer sheet in the first place. How many desirable teams can afford 4+ for Third Line C? Only to have to re-up them a year later?

An offer sheet can be more than 1 year. His production this year justifies 4M. I could see teams using him as 2C or 2RW. He could play 2C in CGY or OTT.

 

[Americanadian]

What does everyone think of these trades ?
To
Toronto
13th overall
Raty
Wahlstrom
Mayfield

To
Islanders
Nylander
Steeves
2023 1st top ten protected

To
Sens
Kerfoot

To
Toronto
Sens 2022 2nd

To
Dallas
Holl

To
Toronto
2022 3rd
2022 4th

To
Chicago
Mrazek
2024 2nd Leafs
2022 3rd Dallas
2022 3rd Leafs

To
Ducks
2022 1st Leafs
Robertson
Muzzin


To
Leafs
Gibson

To
Vegas
39th overall

To
Leafs
Roy

I think the Islanders give up too much for Nylander. They don’t have the cap space to absorb him right now with Dobson due.

The Ducks trade is bad. Gibson is washed and that trade would bite the Leafs in season 1 out of 5.

I think Nylander for Varlamov, 13OA+Wahlstrom could make sense. I’m not sure if Wahlstrom is a lock to be a top 6 player going forward.

The Mrazek/Holl/Kerfoot deals are probably very close to reality.

VGK probably do that deal for Roy. He’d be a fine 3C for the Leafs. Unfortunately not a defensive 3C but Colorado is about to win a cup with an offensive 3rd line.

 

[Americanadian]

See i agree but it's gotta make sense right. I'm fine trading them for a core piece. Not bits and pieces. That just doesn't work. Imo anyway.

If you can get Tomasino+17OA for Nylander and sign Husso/Marchment with that cap space would you consider that bits and pieces?

 

[Americanadian]

Bunting Matthews Marner
Copp Tavares Wahlstrom
Athanasiou Roy Kessel
Zar Kampf Engvall

Reilly Brodie
Sandin Mayfield
Gio Liljegren
Lyubushkin

Gibson
Comrie

Here's this roster using EH cap projections/WAR value:

The 2nd line is a bit underwhelming especially compared to the 1st line. The 3rd line is atrocious defensively but they bring more offense than the 2nd. The goaltending tandem is fine. Comrie's value is through the roof because his 19 games this year were on par with Shesterkin.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Here's this roster using EH cap projections/WAR value:

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The 2nd line is a bit underwhelming especially compared to the 1st line. The 3rd line is atrocious defensively but they bring more offense than the 2nd. The goaltending tandem is fine. Comrie's value is through the roof because his 19 games this year were on par with Shesterkin.

I really appreciate you doing this. It gives more context to the line up I tried to create. Thank you.

 

[ER89]

If you can get Tomasino+17OA for Nylander and sign Husso/Marchment with that cap space would you consider that bits and pieces?

I would. Better bits and pieces than previously discussed, but still bits and pieces.

 

[Americanadian]

I would. Better bits and pieces than previously discussed, but still bits and pieces.

I completely blanked on the initial proposal. At the end of the day we just have separate valuations of players.

 

[Legion34]

I kinda think we are looking at Comrie. CJ keeps saying we are looking at under the radar goalies. He would be the one I can see

 

[ULF_55]

Here's this roster using EH cap projections/WAR value:

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The 2nd line is a bit underwhelming especially compared to the 1st line. The 3rd line is atrocious defensively but they bring more offense than the 2nd. The goaltending tandem is fine. Comrie's value is through the roof because his 19 games this year were on par with Shesterkin.

Curious how this compares to a 115 point team?

 

[SprDaVE]

I kinda think we are looking at Comrie. CJ keeps saying we are looking at under the radar goalies. He would be the one I can see

If they can sign him to around 1M (or any amount that you can bury), then he fits the back-up role. The Leafs will still need a strong starter.

Comrie had a good season for a pure back-up. But that's about it. He's about to turn 27 and has been a journeyman goaltender for a long long time. Maybe he turned a corner, but that seems unlikely.

 

[Legion34]

If they can sign him to around 1M (or any amount that you can bury), then he fits the back-up role. The Leafs will still need a strong starter.

Comrie had a good season for a pure back-up. But that's about it. He's about to turn 27 and has been a journeyman goaltender for a long long time. Maybe he turned a corner, but that seems unlikely.

I think he would be the new Campbell. A backup who hasn’t broken out. Fits the bill.


I don’t see him as like a mrazek/ Comrie but maybe mrazek and husso/fleury etc

 

[SprDaVE]

I think he would be the new Campbell. A backup who hasn’t broken out. Fits the bill.


I don’t see him as like a mrazek/ Comrie but maybe mrazek and husso/fleury etc

I go up and down the list of choices for the Leafs and it changes everytime as to how I think it will go down. Comrie is typically always one that makes the cut or that I think will be a likely signing.

 

[Americanadian]

Curious how this compares to a 115 point team?

This is how this years team would project to next year based on the last 3 years of data:

 

[thusk]

I dont understand the buzz around husso.

Answer for finally solve goalie issues and finally pass first round... sign the worst goalie of current playoff and who will cost probably around 3 to 4M...

 

[Fogelhund]

Toronto Maple Leafs Are About to Get a Massive Boost

The Toronto Maple Leafs are in a great place. The Toronto Maple Leafs have tons of cap flexibility, a Hart Trophy, most of their best players are still rea...

editorinleaf.com

I mean, that's incredibly optimistic, but I'll take it. LOL

 

[Americanadian]

I go up and down the list of choices for the Leafs and it changes everytime as to how I think it will go down. Comrie is typically always one that makes the cut or that I think will be a likely signing.

I don’t see how he doesn’t end up in Edmonton. They’re in desperate need for 1 NHL goalie, maybe 2. He’s from there. They can give him as many games as he wants.

 

[stickty111]

Toronto Maple Leafs Are About to Get a Massive Boost

The Toronto Maple Leafs are in a great place. The Toronto Maple Leafs have tons of cap flexibility, a Hart Trophy, most of their best players are still rea...

editorinleaf.com

I mean, that's incredibly optimistic, but I'll take it. LOL

Editor in Leaf is pretty much the Mike Wilner of the Leafs, so I wouldn't take the site seriously. Still rather that than the constant negativity about the team.

 

[ULF_55]

This is how this years team would project to next year based on the last 3 years of data:

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What was the prediction for this year's 115 point team? How close was it to reality?