Proposal: Toronto and Calgary (Not Nylander or Hamilton)

[Brobust]

Kapanen is not a blue chipper at all.

You don't know anything about Kapanen.

 

[rent free]

You don't know anything about Kapanen.

All he needs to know is that he isn't a blue chipper and that's correct.

 

[Brobust]

Yeah, you don't know anything about Hamonic, he was fine after he adjusted and hardly a flop.

Congratulations. He went from putrid to bearable. Totally worth a 1st round pick then.

 

[CREW99AW]

Congratulations. He went from putrid to bearable. Totally worth a 1st round pick then.

Hamonic was very good against the nyi.
He rebounded after a slow start.
Not sure if Leaf fans are trashing him because they do not realize he turned his season around or if they simply want to add a quality, top 4 RHD without giving up anything of real value.

 

[Trapper]

Hamonic was very good against the nyi.
He rebounded after a slow start.
Not sure if Leaf fans are trashing him because they do not realize he turned his season around or if they simply want to add a quality, top 4 RHD without giving up anything of real value.

I don't see Calgary moving Hamonic at this time.
Brodie or Stone are more likely to moved IMO.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Not saying it isn't a fair trade, but distrust the (some) of the Calgary fan base hype about Hamonic being 4 Dmen. How many top 4 Dmen can an out of the playoff team have?

 

[Spirit of 67]

I can't imagine Calgary would accept this. Not a year after giving up wht they did.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

All he needs to know is that he isn't a blue chipper and that's correct.

Because if you say it's true then it definitely is correct. Sorry we ever doubted you almighty AnishLoomba.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Easy pass from Calgary. Gardener could be added to this and I’d still pass. I love what Hamonic adds to our blue line.

 

[McSuper]

Not saying it isn't a fair trade, but distrust the (some) of the Calgary fan base hype about Hamonic being 4 Dmen. How many top 4 Dmen can an out of the playoff team have?

If top 4 D was the only thing that got you to the playoffs the TML would not of made those same playoffs . Calgary is lacking upfront not on D and you do realize that 95% of your score is done by forwards

 

[Morgs]

I have zero interest in Hamonic (or Stone).

Pass.

 

[rent free]

Because if you say it's true then it definitely is correct. Sorry we ever doubted you almighty AnishLoomba.

It's quite ridiculous you think kapanen is a blue chipper when he was 10 career points at age 22.

 

[CraigsList]

Not saying it isn't a fair trade, but distrust the (some) of the Calgary fan base hype about Hamonic being 4 Dmen. How many top 4 Dmen can an out of the playoff team have?

? Our problem was scoring and consistent goaltending.

 

[Volica]

Hammer was solid for us.
You don't trade a top 4D for a Tweener and a 3rd.

Any interest on Toronto's end for Gardiner for Mangi and a 3rd?

 

[Volica]

If top 4 D was the only thing that got you to the playoffs the TML would not of made those same playoffs . Calgary is lacking upfront not on D and you do realize that 95% of your score is done by forwards

Seeing an Edmonton Oiler fan having more sense than Toronto fans; regarding the Calgary Flames is truly a demonstration of the times on this forum right now

I love the "LoL Calgary, 5 1D's not in playoffs! HAhahaha!" stupidity.
Not sure what more that D could have done. They were top 5-10 in almost every defensive metric; and provided 40 goals from the backend. Compare that to a Toronto team that scored a tonne more goals and only got 30 from theirs. Bad coaching, no depth hurt Calgary a lot more than any D this season (minus Bartkowski).

 

[TheBeastCoast]

It's quite ridiculous you think kapanen is a blue chipper when he was 10 career points at age 22.

I didn't say he was don't put words in my mouth.

 

[rent free]

I didn't say he was don't put words in my mouth.

good that you didn't say he was because he isn't.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

good that you didn't say he was because he isn't.

If you say so champ.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

yeah I don't always like to drag advanced stats into discussions, but his cf%, gf%, and xgf% are all negative relative to his team. he also doesn't play particularly tough minutes and he plays with a partner who's better than he is. that all tells me that his defensive impact is heavily overstated. Plus he brings worse offensive production than Polak, which terrifies me

Hamonic and Brodie were used as our shut down pair by Gulutzan, so not sure where you get that he wasn't playing tough minutes?

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

sure. but then you go and make a comment about kapanen which suggests you know nothing about him. 2nd most dangerous leaf in the playoffs (outside of marner)

Still not even close to a blue chipper.

Its nice that he had a good little streak, but his body of work pretty much shows. Not a blue chipper and not that great of a trading chip.

 

[Lunatik]

Hamonic and Brodie were used as our shut down pair by Gulutzan, so not sure where you get that he wasn't playing tough minutes?

this is what happens when people only read stats because games are on after their mom made them go to bed

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Don't hate it. Hamonic definitely fills a need. Most other teams don't understand how high leaf fans are on kap though. He isn't offered because fans want him gone, rather because he is a cost controlled speedster with good defensive awareness and a good shot. I'd sooner trade Conner Brown and I love Conner Brown's play style.