Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Marner re-signs (6 years, $10.893M AAV) Part III

[CatchyTune]

It really should.

The culture of taking every penny possible from Dubas is not a good thing.

If he wanted every penny possible he would have accepted an offer sheet.

 

[capfit9]

This Leafs organization never learns; Hired a rookie GM in JFJ and he completely screwed it up and its happening again

 

[IronHalen]

It really should.

The culture of taking every penny possible from Dubas is not a good thing.

You realize after taxes Marner takes home the same amount as Rantanen? Even with the discrepancy in actual AAV. But that’s the league’s and certain teams’ problem.

 

[Luminiferous]

Don't understand how Dubas failed so hard in regards to these contracts.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Leafs hands were tied. I’m an Avs fan and even I understand that Dubas did what he had to do.

It is what it is. Giving into Nylander changed the future makeup. If he didn’t sign Matthews/Marner he’d be in a much worse position than he is now.

Still probably gonna win the cup.

 

[Faltorvo]

Deals arent amazing but i'm not complaining. I'm sure management will have a plan, since its their jobs and all. My job as a fan is to watch these amazing players for the next 6 years. Gonna be a fun ride

what marketing firm do you work for????

 

[Nothingbutglass]

If he wanted every penny possible he would have accepted an offer sheet.

He took every penny. You cant even ice a full roster this year. Wait until he gets an injury and you cant afford to bring someone up because of his cap hit

 

[WetcoastOrca]

You realize after taxes Marner takes home the same amount as Rantanen? Even with the discrepancy in actual AAV. But that’s the league’s and certain teams’ problem.

The Leafs have advantages in terms of endorsement deals. You can’t just look at taxes in isolation. And they should have advantages over some other low tax teams (not Colorado or Tampa but others) in that they have a very good team.

 

[DFC]

If he wanted every penny possible he would have accepted an offer sheet.

We have no idea how much the offer sheets were for. We know how much the Leafs offered though, which is > 1.5m more than a player who, at worst, is his equal.

 

[DFC]

You realize after taxes Marner takes home the same amount as Rantanen? Even with the discrepancy in actual AAV. But that’s the league’s and certain teams’ problem.

So Sakic managed to use taxes to his advantage, but Dubas failed to use marketing opportunities to his advantage? Is that what you're saying? Because either Toronto is the hockey mecca or it's not.

 

[Faltorvo]

dubass the GM of the team i love is a MORON and gutless

new market my arse

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Matthew's overpayment significantly impacted the Marner negotiations. Leaf fans denying that fact is delusional.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

But Marner is better than Rantanen so why is everyone freaking out ?

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Getting Barrie, who is represented by Newport, signed next year.. Good luck Dubas.

 

[CatchyTune]

what marketing firm do you work for????

My couch, enjoying watching my elite young core for the next 5+ seasons

 

[CatchyTune]

He took every penny. You cant even ice a full roster this year. Wait until he gets an injury and you cant afford to bring someone up because of his cap hit

They can ice a full roster. Anyone can get hurt and ltir exists

 

[Tripod]

We have no idea how much the offer sheets were for. We know how much the Leafs offered though, which is > 1.5m more than a player who, at worst, is his equal.

But it was hard to play hardball with Marner, after making Matthews the 2nd highest paid player....and then have Marner outproduce him in real points AND PPG. It just snowballed.

But yeah, these 2...Marner and Rants are the 2 closest comparables out there and the AVS did well in comparison.

 

[biotk]

He took every penny. You cant even ice a full roster this year. Wait until he gets an injury and you cant afford to bring someone up because of his cap hit

Explain how they won't be able to bring someone up?

 

[dubey]

My couch, enjoying watching my elite young core for the next 5+ seasons

Can't wait

dubass the GM of the team i love is a MORON and gutless

new market my arse

Boy did you ever pick a bad time to switch from Leafs to Bruins to back to Leafs

 

[DFC]

But it was hard to play hardball with Marner, after making Matthews the 2nd highest paid player....and then have Marner outproduce him in real points AND PPG. It just snowballed.

But yeah, these 2...Marner and Rants are the 2 closest comparables out there and the AVS did well in comparison.

I totally agree. I think the big mistake was not getting Matthews to understand that RFA contracts aren't the same as UFA contracts, and therefore he should have come in below Tavares. Failing to do that created this "new market" we kept hearing about, but that turned out to only exist in Toronto.

 

[Faltorvo]

Can't wait

Boy did you ever pick a bad time to switch from Leafs to Bruins to back to Leafs

aww i am honoured that you even cared to remember me

to think you still remember a post i made dang near 8 years ago

i must hold a special spot

living rent free baby

 

[Legion34]

So Sakic managed to use taxes to his advantage, but Dubas failed to use marketing opportunities to his advantage? Is that what you're saying? Because either Toronto is the hockey mecca or it's not.

Or maybe getting dramatically more in Gauranteed take home money is not in any way equivalent to having to do extra work and not having gauranteed contracts? Maybe just maybe that’s it?

I fully believe dubas overpaid by a million. Easy. But you have embarrassed yourself so often with this line of reasoning that it’s unfortunate

 

[dubey]

aww i am honoured that you even cared to remember me

It's hilarious

 

[biotk]

I totally agree. I think the big mistake was not getting Matthews to understand that RFA contracts aren't the same as UFA contracts, and therefore he should have come in below Tavares. Failing to do that created this "new market" we kept hearing about, but that turned out to only exist in Toronto.

I think Matthews understood perfectly well the OS situation for him. Because, Marner didn't have the same OS potential and because he isn't close to Matthews, the team should have turned the screws on him. Matthews is a much better player and worth about 3M more per year than Marner is.

 

[dubey]

I think Matthews understood perfectly well the OS situation for him. Because, Marner didn't have the same OS potential and because he isn't close to Matthews, the team should have turned the screws on him. Marner's contract is the extreme overpayment.

Extreme overpayment lol

I can't wait for the season to start and the Leafs putting these middling teams out of their misery early