Proposal: [TOR/EDM/OTT] 3 Way Trade

[Liferleafer]

I don’t think Tavares is getting a dime under 11 if he gets to pick his landing spot.

Matthews I think gets 11, Tavares 11-12, Marner around 7.

You might have noticed, Edmonton wasn’t very good this year.

If the best player in the NHL is getting 12.5, do you honestly think a team is giving Tavares 12? And, if the best player in the NHL is getting 12.5, you think Matthews gets close to that?

 

[Brock Radunske]

The value may be off here, please let me know. That said, I think this deal makes a lot of sense for all three teams involved IF Erik Karlsson doesn't want to resign in Ottawa. The Senators get a great haul, including a 24 year old top 4 (top pairing?) defenseman on a great contract, a 20 year old who was just drafted 4th overall, the 10th overall pick in a deep draft, and two more picks. They are unlikely to find a better return that that. Toronto gives up a young winger, but adresses a position of need with one of the best 3rd line centers in the league. Toronto is already very deep on the wings, so the loss of Kapanen won't hurt too much. Edmonton adresses a huge need for an offensive right-defenseman, and gets their 1st bonafide 1D in a decade. He would also solve their issue on the powerplay. Kapanen is a speedy winger with a great shot. A line of RNH - McDavid - Kapanen with a defensive pairing of Nurse - Karlsson would be nearly impossible to stop.

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Oscar Klefbom, Jesse Puljujarvi, 2018 1st, 2nd, 3rd (All from Edmonton)


Jean-Gabriel Pageau


Erik Karlsson (Verbal Agreement to Re-Sign) , Kasperi Kapanen



* Assuming Erik Karlsson will not re-sign in Ottawa.

 

[voxel]

If the best player in the NHL is getting 12.5, do you honestly think a team is giving Tavares 12?

He's a UFA. McJesus took a discount. I bet Tavares gets $13M/yr... maybe not for 7 years though.

 

[member 157595]

If the best player in the NHL is getting 12.5, do you honestly think a team is giving Tavares 12?

McDavid was an RFA, Tavares is one of the best players to hit UFA in recent memory. I'm sure a team like Montreal would offer him >= $12M/year immediately. I'm equally sure that Tavares doesn't belong in the same pay tier as McDavid, but that's UFA for you.

 

[Liferleafer]

He's a UFA. McJesus took a discount. I bet Tavares gets $13M/yr... maybe not for 7 years though.

I would be shocked, but who knows?

 

[hockeyguy1967]

he plays 4th line minutes. how much could you expect him to produce. also he had like 5 breakaways in the series and only converted on 1 of them, so he got chances as well. sorry he can't produce like 9 in 13 mcdavid

McDavid was not a minus player like this guy and Matthews.

 

[rent free]

McDavid was not a minus player like this guy and Matthews.

well at least you admit that you were wrong, indirectly though

 

[Jared Dunn]

In what universe is Kapanen>Puljujarvi? Even with Puljujarvi's disappointing stats they are still better then Kapanens who is also almost 2 years older. Plus Kapanen is a playoff no show. Why is Toronto even in this trade?

Kapanen has scored three timely goals in 13 playoff games playing bottom six minutes, also had to have hit the post about 15 times in round one, but sometimes I like to just spew out words that don't really mean anything too

 

[EDMOILERS9729]

Replace Klef with Larsson and id do it. Value is fair whether sens fans like it or not there not getting better than a yoing top 4d, blue chip rw, top 10 pick and 2nd and 3rd rounders.

 

[stempniaksen]

Replace Klef with Larsson and id do it. Value is fair whether sens fans like it or not there not getting better than a yoing top 4d, blue chip rw, top 10 pick and 2nd and 3rd rounders.

Serious question here, how in the world would the Oilers compete paying 5 players (McDavid, Karlsson, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Lucic) ~$44 million?

I always assumed an Oilers package would have to start with Draisaitl/Nugent-Hopkins just for cap reasons.

 

[Albi34]

Why not just re-sign bozak and not lose kapanen? Or is he that much better than Bozak? (I honestly dont know)

 

[Homesick]

Serious question here, how in the world would the Oilers compete paying 5 players (McDavid, Karlsson, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Lucic) ~$44 million?

I always assumed an Oilers package would have to start with Draisaitl/Nugent-Hopkins just for cap reasons.

Your assumption is correct.

I'd rather pass on Karlsson altogether and build a deeper team than trying the same crap as Lowe/Tambellini/MacTavish and now Chiarelli have tried

 

[shortfuze]

Serious question here, how in the world would the Oilers compete paying 5 players (McDavid, Karlsson, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Lucic) ~$44 million?

I always assumed an Oilers package would have to start with Draisaitl/Nugent-Hopkins just for cap reasons.

Eliminating lucic’s contract would be a start?

 

[stempniaksen]

Eliminating lucic’s contract would be a start?

Good luck?

 

[shortfuze]

Good luck?

Definitely need luck

 

[Captain Controversy]

Lucic + 2018 first + puljujarvi + Oscar Klefbom for
Eric Karlsson(Agreed to extend)

 

[stempniaksen]

Lucic + 2018 first + puljujarvi + Oscar Klefbom for
Eric Karlsson(Agreed to extend)

Sens aren't taking on that Lucic contract, that's insane.

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

Lucic + 2018 first + puljujarvi + Oscar Klefbom for
Eric Karlsson(Agreed to extend)

If you're getting an extended Karlsson and dumping all of Lucic's contract, at the very least its Nurse instead of Klefbom and probably another addon from Edmonton like a second or good prospect.

 

[Liferleafer]

Lucic + 2018 first + puljujarvi + Oscar Klefbom for
Eric Karlsson(Agreed to extend)

Take out Lucic at the very least, and probably add another nice piece from Edmonton.

 

[THall4]

Actually, they could. But with that said, if by some strange miracle Tavares signs here, Nylander will probably get traded for defense. I mean look at Edmonton

McDavid-12.5
Drai-8.5
lucic-6

So even if the Leafs go:

Matthews-10 (Eichel comparison)
Tavares- 9( Or even 10)
Marner 6-7 (Pasta comparison)
Nylander 6 (a little less than Marner)

That's still 20 million on 1 and 2 Cs (Edmonton is 21 million)

LOL @ JT signing for 9M

Wishful thinking

 

[THall4]

he plays 4th line minutes. how much could you expect him to produce. also he had like 5 breakaways in the series and only converted on 1 of them, so he got chances as well. sorry he can't produce like 9 in 13 mcdavid

Still hung up on that eh.

So he produces like Matthews' 5 in 13 (over 2 years)...or is it Matthews the produces like Kap? ...

 

[rent free]

Still hung up on that eh.

So he produces like Matthews' 5 in 13 (over 2 years)...or is it Matthews the produces like Kap? ...

7 in 13 (over 2 years- 5 of em goals) and matthews has more than double the production of kap...

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Kapanen has scored three timely goals in 13 playoff games playing bottom six minutes, also had to have hit the post about 15 times in round one, but sometimes I like to just spew out words that don't really mean anything too

He got 1 goal in 7 games..... He was a big minus and basically trash. Sorry that the truth hurts.

 

[rent free]

He got 1 goal in 7 games..... He was a big minus and basically trash. Sorry that the truth hurts.

he wasn't trash at all. you just look at the stats and don't watch the games

 

[hockeyguy1967]

he wasn't trash at all. you just look at the stats and don't watch the games

Watched every game in the series. He was detriment to his team, just like Matthews.