As a 3rd pairing with McCabe he’s tolerable. The issue is we are missing a top partner for Rielly and 2 other top 4 guys. Lil is okay trending towards good but still green, Brodie is meh but really showing his age, and Giordano is no longer a full time player.
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As a 3rd pairing with McCabe he’s tolerable. The issue is we are missing a top partner for Rielly and 2 other top 4 guys. Lil is okay trending towards good but still green, Brodie is meh but really showing his age, and Giordano is no longer a full time player.
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If it was possible to dress a 7th D (and still have 12 forwards), the Leafs could just bring him out on the power play and sit him the rest of the night.
Unfortunately, that's not the case so he has to be completely sheltered, both in matchups and ideally only being put out for offensive zone faceoffs. Now with 2 other d-men injured, he's been bumped up to the second unit which means Leafs Nation is praying for Liljegren to miraculously recover in record time.
Unfortunately, that's not the case so he has to be completely sheltered, both in matchups and ideally only being put out for offensive zone faceoffs. Now with 2 other d-men injured, he's been bumped up to the second unit which means Leafs Nation is praying for Liljegren to miraculously recover in record time.
At what age does Timmy stop getting excuses? 25? 26? 30?
Weak as a kitten and not so good in his own end while putting up the worst shot share on the Blue line.
When you say the guy your cap strapped team signed for 4 millions is "tolerable" as a 3rd pair, that is pretty catastrophic.
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At the time I thought it was a huge mistake from Dallas. Klingberg was amazing in Dallas.
I meant for 5 on 5 duty. His value will come on the PP…. From what we’re told lol
Lol. Still can’t believe he turned down 7x7
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I thought he has gotten better as the season has gone along here. Pre-season and the first several games he looked really slow, but now he's skating much better and seems to be just fine, he has that nice long stride and reach with that crazy long stick. I think on the 2nd pair with some some PP time, he seems fine to me.
"Haven't watched him play" the call of the super homer.
We all saw what happened when he put all his strength into Marchand. Powerful weak.
You going to answer the question or not?
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I think Toronto will regret that signing when he is responsible for a blunder leading to a heart-breaking goal against in a critical playoffs game.
They better pick-up someone better at the deadline, but he ate a big chunk of their cap space too, so finding a cheap gem will be very costly.
IMO he's one of their worst decisions last Summer. Their best chance is for him to get hurt and LTIR'ed, then come back for the playoffs paired with the much better defensive D they will have picked up with the relief in the meantime.
They better pick-up someone better at the deadline, but he ate a big chunk of their cap space too, so finding a cheap gem will be very costly.
IMO he's one of their worst decisions last Summer. Their best chance is for him to get hurt and LTIR'ed, then come back for the playoffs paired with the much better defensive D they will have picked up with the relief in the meantime.
TheGroceryStick
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I seen Scott Stevens get tripped before. He skated over a broken stick and fell. Must be weak. Same as Mike Tyson. Back in 1991 the weak man tripped down a few stairs and hurt his wrist which caused him to miss a fight. I guess he’s weak because he fell? People lose balance and fall all the time.
Oh yeah, people mistake Timmy for Iron Mike all the time....what are you doing here?
Do you have an answer for the question?
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He’s just atrocious, and even though it’s early, he doesn’t have the footwork to make it change. His only hope is a partner who can completely protect him, and the Leafs just don’t have one.
What’s even more depressing is… they could’ve signed Gostisbehere instead, but chose Klingberg over him for the same money.
UFA is a wild day for players. You have to have backup plans and be willing to say yes or no, very quickly.
Ghost looks great in Detroit, but would've signed in Toronto. They had the salary slot and offered it to Klingberg, with Ghost as the backup plan. If Klingberg had chosen another option, Ghost would've signed with Toronto. Instead, Detroit agreed to the same thing Toronto was offering, and waited to see what happened with the Leafs. As soon as Klingberg signed, Gostisbehere signed in Detroit for the same money.
Sometimes it works out great for a player, and sometimes not so much. This one is a perfect example. Gostisbehere has been really good so far in Detroit, and Treliving is probably kicking himself, that he chose Klingberg.
I’m just still wondering why??? Did he really think Klingberg was going to revert back to his Dallas days?? That’s the only logical reason, because Ghost showed last year, he had reinvented himself in Arizona, and he plays a game the Leafs could really use right now. They need someone else who can transport the puck. Something Klingberg was never going to do.
Just a bad decision by Treliving.
What’s even more depressing is… they could’ve signed Gostisbehere instead, but chose Klingberg over him for the same money.
UFA is a wild day for players. You have to have backup plans and be willing to say yes or no, very quickly.
Ghost looks great in Detroit, but would've signed in Toronto. They had the salary slot and offered it to Klingberg, with Ghost as the backup plan. If Klingberg had chosen another option, Ghost would've signed with Toronto. Instead, Detroit agreed to the same thing Toronto was offering, and waited to see what happened with the Leafs. As soon as Klingberg signed, Gostisbehere signed in Detroit for the same money.
Sometimes it works out great for a player, and sometimes not so much. This one is a perfect example. Gostisbehere has been really good so far in Detroit, and Treliving is probably kicking himself, that he chose Klingberg.
I’m just still wondering why??? Did he really think Klingberg was going to revert back to his Dallas days?? That’s the only logical reason, because Ghost showed last year, he had reinvented himself in Arizona, and he plays a game the Leafs could really use right now. They need someone else who can transport the puck. Something Klingberg was never going to do.
Just a bad decision by Treliving.
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Yeah, this was all apparent in Minnesota so I was surprised he still got a huge contract with Toronto. If he signed directly after playing in Anaheim, you could make the argument that he just playing a terrible defensively team etc etc.
But he signed directly after playing in Minnesota, and during that time, we had a solid defensive core with a fairly tight structurally playing team with good goaltending. And on a team that desperately needed a PP QB. And during that time, his defensive warts was so clear, I thought he would have to go to the free market and sign for something closer to 2mil AAV. So good on his agent to convince teams to use historical play vs recent play as a basis for his contract.
But he signed directly after playing in Minnesota, and during that time, we had a solid defensive core with a fairly tight structurally playing team with good goaltending. And on a team that desperately needed a PP QB. And during that time, his defensive warts was so clear, I thought he would have to go to the free market and sign for something closer to 2mil AAV. So good on his agent to convince teams to use historical play vs recent play as a basis for his contract.
What’s your question? When he stops getting excuses? Well he’s very serviceable at the moment very solid transition guy. I’d say equivalent at the moment to a prime Jake Gardiner. Lili isn’t as good offensively but better defensively. Not sure what excuses are being made I like his game as is
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He still needs protection and that’s a big indicator he’s never gonna be what they had hoped. Even though he had the points, his play at World’s showed he’s nowhere near ready for big responsibility. Problem is, with as bad as McCabe and Klingberg have been, what else do they have?? And they’ve got nothing coming that excites anyone.
It’s pretty bad when Benoit is probably their 3rd best dman tonight and he’s slow as it gets. The one good thing is, we know McCabe can play much better than he had been before the injury. If it’s a groin though, that’s just gonna linger all year.
It’s a mess right now.
His analytics with the Wild were much better than Anh, I think you and I were well aware of the eye test, but Toronto probably thought they could cover for him.
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There is speculation that Klingberg might end up on LTIR and his career may be in jeopardy.
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Chris Johnston says John Klingberg is facing an uncertain future due to a nagging injury
John Klingberg's struggles since joining the Leafs have been well-docu...
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It was always an odd signing to bring in a PP specialist to a team that was ranked 2nd in the NHL on the PP last year.
LTIR is the best possible outcome for the Leafs if that's a possibility.
LTIR is the best possible outcome for the Leafs if that's a possibility.
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