Proposal: Tor-Col and Tor-Car

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This is based on the leafs signing Alex Pietrangelo

Toronto- William Nylander

Colorado- Alex Newhook and 24th overall

Toronto: The leafs shed much needed cap space, Alex Newhook can hopefully fill the 3C role in 2021-22 season he has loads of potential and a 1st to add a good prospect

Colorado: adds an elite forward to add depth to the second line. They could take a chance and see how he does at centre and bump Kadri to the 3rd line.

Toronto- Alex Kerfoot/Andreas Johnsson, Fredrick Andersen and 24th overall

Carolina- 13th overall ( Askarov )

Toronto: the leafs shed more cap and bring in the best goalie prospect in the world

Carolina- adds the best goalie on the market, fall back 11 spots and add add a good depth forward.

how are these?
 

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Toronto- Alex Kerfoot/Andreas Johnsson, Fredrick Andersen and 24th overall

Carolina- 13th overall ( Askarov )

Toronto: the leafs shed more cap and bring in the best goalie prospect in the world

Carolina- adds the best goalie on the market, fall back 11 spots and add add a good depth forward.

how are these?

No thanks.
 

howkie

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This is based on the leafs signing Alex Pietrangelo

Toronto- William Nylander

Colorado- Alex Newhook and 24th overall

Toronto: The leafs shed much needed cap space, Alex Newhook can hopefully fill the 3C role in 2021-22 season he has loads of potential and a 1st to add a good prospect

Colorado: adds an elite forward to add depth to the second line. They could take a chance and see how he does at centre and bump Kadri to the 3rd line.

Toronto- Alex Kerfoot/Andreas Johnsson, Fredrick Andersen and 24th overall

Carolina- 13th overall ( Askarov )

Toronto: the leafs shed more cap and bring in the best goalie prospect in the world

Carolina- adds the best goalie on the market, fall back 11 spots and add add a good depth forward.

how are these?
Leafs must stop offering Andersen to Carolina, read some history..
 

GoldiFox

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Terrible for Carolina. Kerfoot and AJ don't do anything for the Canes roster. Andersen is worth a 2nd round pick which would improve #24 to about #20. Huge value gap down to #13. Especially if Askarov is there.

Andersen is far from the best goalie on the market. He's a middling upgrade to Petr Mrazek.

Canes will stay at #13 and take one Askarov, Jarvis, Quinn, or whoever falls.
 
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MinJaBen

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How many “Andersen to Carolina via Highway Robbery” do we have to go through?

To Toronto fans: We are not giving you #13 or Pesce for Andersen. He’s not playing any better than our two journeymen, cost more cap, only has one year left, and jilted is already.
 

GoldiFox

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How many “Andersen to Carolina via Highway Robbery” do we have to go through?

To Toronto fans: We are not giving you #13 or Pesce for Andersen. He’s not playing any better than our two journeymen, cost more cap, only has one year left, and jilted is already.

You mean to tell me that Carolina doesn't want to trade a decade of a franchise goalie in Askarov for 1 year of Frederik Andersen?!? Have you even considered how much Toronto could use a franchise goalie on an ELC? Don't be so selfish.

It will be so delicious if 2 weeks from now the Canes select Askarov with Toronto's own pick. I'm pumped.
 

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How many “Andersen to Carolina via Highway Robbery” do we have to go through?

To Toronto fans: We are not giving you #13 or Pesce for Andersen. He’s not playing any better than our two journeymen, cost more cap, only has one year left, and jilted is already.
Not to mention this clown already spurned us once so we have no reason to believe he would actually re-sign with us because of that. He should just stay in Toronto to lose every elimination game possible.
 
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T_Cage

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Calling it ‘giving you #13 for Andersen’ is disingenuous. It’s Andersen, a solid middle 6 F AND #24

I don’t see Carolina doing the deal because AJ/Kerfoot isn’t a need for them (nor do I see TO doing it cause I have a funny feeling askarov doesn’t make it to 13) but let’s look at it a little more objectively
 

MarkusKetterer

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If Leafs trade Andersen then what do they do for a starter? Campbell is crap!

They find a goalie whose nickname is Habitant? Acquire J.C. Lipon, force him to be a goalie and mis-spell his name wrong? Sign former Blue Jays catcher Randy Knorr to be a goalie?

The possibilities are delicious if you remain chili and stew on it a bit.
 

Junohockeyfan

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They find a goalie whose nickname is Habitant? Acquire J.C. Lipon, force him to be a goalie and mis-spell his name wrong? Sign former Blue Jays catcher Randy Knorr to be a goalie?

The possibilities are endless if you remain chili and stew on it a bit.

Good plan!
 

Cardiac Jerks

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Leafs must stop offering Andersen to Carolina, read some history..

I don’t think that history matters to anyone but the fans at this point. Ownership and management has completely changed since he chose not to sign with Carolina.

I don’t really care at this point but I wouldn’t pay any more than a second.
 
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sansabri

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Nylander is not an elite player and what are the Leafs going to do while they wait 2 years for Askarov to come over to NA
 

Mitch nylander

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That Carolina deal is awful value wise for Toronto.

And it doesn't make sense for Carolina.

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Players picked #13 and #24 2010-2016

#13 Brandon Gormley vs #24 Kevin Hayes -
#13 Sven Baertschi vs #24 Matt Puempel - Marginal upgrade neither players are anything
#13 Radek Faksa Vs Malcom Subban
#13 Josh Morrissey Vs Hunter Shinkaruk
#13 Jakub Vrana vs Jared Mccann
#13 Jakub Zboril Vs Travis Konecny
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13 Jake Bean Vs Max Jones - Max Jones is better rn, but it's too early to tell.

3-2

This just shows you, that all though, 13 does have the best player, the gap really isn't as big as HFBoards makes it seem.

Toronto is not looking at trading a starting goalie, a middle six forward who has chipped in 40+ points and plays pk. To move up 11 spots.
 

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I don’t think that history matters to anyone but the fans at this point. Ownership and management has completely changed since he chose not to sign with Carolina.

I don’t really care at this point but I wouldn’t pay any more than a second.
His decision not to come here the first time is still a data point for them to use. Maybe he just doesn't want to play here which is his right but that should definitely affect how much we would be willing to give up for him. He's a slight upgrade on what we have now but ultimately isn't worth anything close to what Leaves fans want for him from us.
 

Patagonia

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Both the AVs and Canes laughingly declines.

AVs need a 3C more than another Winger. No interest in moving Newhook for a Winger + 1st.

Canes is a WTF? This is disgustingly bad with cap dumps and expiring contracts to move up their pick. It should the Pens at 15
 
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John Mandalorian

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This is based on the leafs signing Alex Pietrangelo

Toronto- William Nylander

Colorado- Alex Newhook and 24th overall


Toronto: The leafs shed much needed cap space, Alex Newhook can hopefully fill the 3C role in 2021-22 season he has loads of potential and a 1st to add a good prospect

Colorado: adds an elite forward to add depth to the second line. They could take a chance and see how he does at centre and bump Kadri to the 3rd line.

Toronto- Alex Kerfoot/Andreas Johnsson, Fredrick Andersen and 24th overall

Carolina- 13th overall ( Askarov )

Toronto: the leafs shed more cap and bring in the best goalie prospect in the world

Carolina- adds the best goalie on the market, fall back 11 spots and add add a good depth forward.

how are these?

Are you out of your mind?! Hell no!

And there's no way Colorado takes all the salary involved in this awful proposal. A contract would have to be going back to Toronto. Good grief this is bad!
 
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Cardiac Jerks

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His decision not to come here the first time is still a data point for them to use. Maybe he just doesn't want to play here which is his right but that should definitely affect how much we would be willing to give up for him. He's a slight upgrade on what we have now but ultimately isn't worth anything close to what Leaves fans want for him from us.

It was said at the time he chose to re-enter the draft because he felt he’d blocked by Ward. Never heard a peep about him not liking the area or anything like that.
 
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John Mandalorian

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Hey Avs we''ll give you one of the softest 70 pt wingers in the game and all we are asking back is Newhook who will end up a better player and your 1st rd pick. Hows that tickle your throat?

And the Avs take on all the current salary. So bad!! LOL :thumbd::laugh:
 

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