Top Forwards by WAR 2007-2020

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The numbers for every available season have been crunched... here are the top 25 most valuable forwards by WAR since the start of the 07-08 season:

(DGS= defensive goals saved, FO=faceoffs, PD= penalty differential, rep= accounts for difference between average and replacement level)
playerGPTOI SHOOTINGPASSINGDGSFOPDREP WARPER 82
SIDNEY.CROSBY82417247.9 137236.1-7.68.918.6148 72.17.2
ALEX.OVECHKIN98820612.2 312.76.4-25.9-0.510176.9 63.95.3
EVGENI.MALKIN82916616.3 124.2196-5-14.64.5142.6 59.75.9
PATRICK.KANE97119524.4 101.4169.3-9.8-2.517.9167.5 59.25
ANZE.KOPITAR100121090.5 14.3142.223.111.825.7181 53.14.3
JONATHAN.TOEWS94218730.9 76.9107.910.231.47.2160.6 52.64.6
STEVEN.STAMKOS80315559.1 175.368.6-10.7-26.9133.3 49.55.1
JOE.THORNTON96318042.3 -79.524328.911.88.3154.9 494.2
PATRICE.BERGERON85916057.2 70.58143.738.4-6.4137.6 48.64.6
JOE.PAVELSKI98218598.8 98.947.123.314.718.8159.5 48.34
NICKLAS.BACKSTROM95518780 -34.2224.211-0.1-8.2161.2 47.24.1
CLAUDE.GIROUX88917530.4 8.6152.7-7.319.120.2150.1 45.84.2
JOHN.TAVARES81416190.7 121.585.5-24.65.114.6138.7 45.44.6
BRAD.MARCHAND75113256.4 101.6102.216.9-1.4-3.5113.4 43.94.8
PAVEL.DATSYUK58911726.6 36.8114.543.81023.4101 43.96.1
RYAN.GETZLAF91418729.4 -39.720920.4-4.5-20.9160.7 43.33.9
DANIEL.SEDIN82715313.3 61107.423-0.80.3131.6 434.3
ZACH.PARISE85216234.1 112.624.19.6-0.923.2139.4 41.14
HENRIK.ZETTERBERG80115989.2 16.1122.814.51.811.7137.4 40.64.2
ERIC.STAAL99519679.8 7775.2-21.4-5.75.3168.9 39.93.3
BLAKE.WHEELER93017202.7 32.9134-4.8-2.1-8.8147.3 39.83.5
HENRIK.SEDIN84716012.7 -77.5227.118.8-6.5-3.5137.6 39.53.8
JAMIE.BENN81415044.9 96.668.3-0.3-1.32.2128.8 39.23.9
PHIL.KESSEL99518370.5 111.668.6-45-1.51.2157.6 393.2
COREY.PERRY90717004.9 113.428.85.8-1.4-6.2146 38.23.5
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I don't know about you, but that seems pretty spot on to me.

Here's the top 15 on a per 82 game basis ( minimum of 82 GP):

playerGPTOI SHOOTINGPASSINGDGSFOPDREP WARPER 82
CONNOR.MCDAVID3517525.6 57.7112.1-12.4-618.964.1 31.37.3
SIDNEY.CROSBY82417247.9 137236.1-7.68.918.6148 72.17.2
AUSTON.MATTHEWS2825299.1 91.714.8-2.51.36.545.1 20.96.1
PAVEL.DATSYUK58911726.6 36.8114.543.81023.4101 43.96.1
EVGENI.MALKIN82916616.3 124.2196-5-14.64.5142.6 59.75.9
NIKITA.KUCHEROV5159242.7 87.4102.42.9-0.12.778.9 36.65.8
DAVID.PASTRNAK3906739.6 79.147.23.4-0.411.157.5 26.45.6
ARTEMI.PANARIN3917697.8 31.695.32.8-0.26.365.6 26.95.6
ALEX.OVECHKIN98820612.2 312.76.4-25.9-0.510176.9 63.95.3
STEVEN.STAMKOS80315559.1 175.368.6-10.7-26.9133.3 49.55.1
PATRICK.KANE97119524.4 101.4169.3-9.8-2.517.9167.5 59.25
LEON.DRAISAITL4228256.1 39.779.2-8.60.47.170.4 25.14.9
ELIAS.PETTERSSON1392541.9 10.719.42.4-1.88.421.6 8.14.8
JOHNNY.GAUDREAU4648846.5 23.785.8-6.3-0.122.875.5 26.94.8
BRAD.MARCHAND75113256.4 101.6102.216.9-1.4-3.5113.4 43.94.8
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I'll continue to update tomorrow. Message with any questions or data requests.
 

tgo0

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Nice job. Not sure how accessible these things are but would be interested in seeing the top 5/10 in individual seasons. See how this years Drai stacks up against prime Crosby in these numbers.
 
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Regal

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List stands up fairly well. Though there's a few head scratching things, such as Bergeron's faceoff ability having almost as much value as his defense. Would be interesting to see things broken down into say best season, best 3 seasons combined, best 5 seasons combined, etc
 

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Mcdavid will have to stay healthy and play extremely well through his late 20s/early 30s to be as valuable as Crosby. He's currently at parity over an 82 game basis. This is despite having the advantage of having played the entirety of his career at peak output age for a forward. Furthermore, I don't expect him to age as well as Crosby due to his game being more speed-based.
The WAR charts solidly display that Sid the Kid is the greatest player of the modern era. Mcdavid still has an outside chance to best him!
NHL WAR, thanks very much for your hard work and wisdom! I for one can't wait to see defenseman.
 

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Nice job. Not sure how accessible these things are but would be interested in seeing the top 5/10 in individual seasons. See how this years Drai stacks up against prime Crosby in these numbers.

These are all the 7+ WAR seasons:


PLAYERSEASONGPTOI ShootingPassingDGSTotal FO GoalsPD GoalsReplacement Goals WAR
ALEX.OVECHKIN07/08821894.2 39.84.50.6-0.15.816.5 9
EVGENI.MALKIN11/12751575.1 26.923.90.6-0.92.413.5 8.8
ALEX.OVECHKIN09/10721569.4 30.118.72.10-0.413.6 8.5
NIKITA.KUCHEROV18/19821628.2 15.537-2.30-0.813.8 8.4
HENRIK.SEDIN09/10821614.6 5.242.30.5-0.2-0.214 8.2
PAVEL.DATSYUK07/08821751.8 6.824.96.50.95.915.3 8
SIDNEY.CROSBY09/10811778.3 24.318.4-1.12.1-0.515.4 7.8
CONNOR.MCDAVID16/17821728.4 8.828.20.2-1.4714.8 7.7
HENRIK.ZETTERBERG07/08751653.2 21.611.74.41.53.614.4 7.6
CONNOR.MCDAVID17/18821767.2 18.623.9-3.5-24.615 7.6
SIDNEY.CROSBY18/19791658.4 10.326.21.92.41.714.1 7.5
CONNOR.MCDAVID18/19781780.6 12.527.6-3.5-0.84.315.1 7.4
ZACH.PARISE08/09821538.1 23.110.84.8-0.22.913.2 7.3
PAVEL.DATSYUK08/09811537.1 9.622.84.11.62.913.2 7.2
DANIEL.SEDIN10/11821521.4 17.322.12.1-0.1-0.313 7.2
LEON.DRAISAITL19/20711605.4 16.824.5-3.10.31.713.7 7.2
PATRICK.KANE15/16821672.9 19.820.7-1.8-0.41.114.3 7.2
NICKLAS.BACKSTROM09/10821676.6 8.429.12.8-0.3-1.114.5 7.1
SIDNEY.CROSBY13/14801757.8 10.723.90.40.91.615.1 7
JAROME.IGINLA07/08821732.7 24.47.91.70.42.915.1 7
ALEX.OVECHKIN08/09791817.4 31.66.7-1.6-0.20.415.6 7
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Draisaitl stacks up pretty well, especially considering GP differences.
Crosby's injuries held him back. From 2010-13 he was on a 10+ WAR over 82 games pace.
 

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Top 10 this season:


GPTOI ShootingPassingDGSTotal FO GoalsPD GoalsReplacement Goals WAR
LEON.DRAISAITL (EDM)711605.4 16.824.5-3.10.31.713.7 7.2
ARTEMI.PANARIN (NYR)691421.7 10.5260.601.712.1 6.8
DAVID.PASTRNAK (BOS)701327.3 25.911.90.3-0.1111.3 6.7
NATHAN.MACKINNON (COL)691464.4 1320.80.6-1.42.712.5 6.4
BRAD.MARCHAND (BOS)701361.7 8.223.43.6-0.10.911.6 6.4
AUSTON.MATTHEWS (TOR)701467.9 25.92.31.91.11.112.5 6
NIKITA.KUCHEROV (T.B)681282.7 1517.70.40010.9 5.9
CONNOR.MCDAVID (EDM)641399.4 12.621.5-4.5-0.31.611.9 5.7
MAX.PACIORETTY (VGK)711271 168.13.70.1-0.510.8 5.1
EVGENI.MALKIN (PIT)551073.7 8.321.70.40-1.59.1 5.1
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Pacioretty surprised me, but the rest are pretty much as you'd expect. What a signing Panarin was
 

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Top 10 this season:


GPTOIShootingPassingDGSTotal FO GoalsPD GoalsReplacement GoalsWAR
LEON.DRAISAITL (EDM)711605.416.824.5-3.10.31.713.77.2
ARTEMI.PANARIN (NYR)691421.710.5260.601.712.16.8
DAVID.PASTRNAK (BOS)701327.325.911.90.3-0.1111.36.7
NATHAN.MACKINNON (COL)691464.41320.80.6-1.42.712.56.4
BRAD.MARCHAND (BOS)701361.78.223.43.6-0.10.911.66.4
AUSTON.MATTHEWS (TOR)701467.925.92.31.91.11.112.56
NIKITA.KUCHEROV (T.B)681282.71517.70.40010.95.9
CONNOR.MCDAVID (EDM)641399.412.621.5-4.5-0.31.611.95.7
MAX.PACIORETTY (VGK)711271168.13.70.1-0.510.85.1
EVGENI.MALKIN (PIT)551073.78.321.70.40-1.59.15.1
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Pacioretty surprised me, but the rest are pretty much as you'd expect. What a signing Panarin was


On first blush I'm surprised to not see Eichel on this list but I haven't looked at the data very closely either.

Pac is also very surprising as I wouldn't have him in my list of top 10 forwards in overall value this year but it is 9th.
 

The90

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He definitely doesn’t get as much credit as he deserves that’s for sure. Leaf fans are lucky to have him
 
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Legion34

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Never underestimate the disdain HF has for Matthews.

the funny thing is. If you post on the leafs board. You are automatically assumed to be a fan. And like that poster can just troll leafs players beyond belief. It’s very odd
 
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Stamkos4life

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Of course you are. He was “clearly surpassed by eichel” if I recall correctly.

I'm not sure you do recall correctly.

Either way, it's not like matthews is that much better than eichel, if at all. If eichel got to play with marner and had JT to play against other teams top lines, jack would have more points.
 
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