Value of: Top 9 Right winger and 2/3c to Buffalo

[Gabrielor]

McCann is your 2C, Hornqvist is your Top 9 wing.

It's been discussed before with some amount of acceptance - McCann for Montour. Positions of strength for positions of need for both teams.

Horny could be had for a variety of offers but it depends on salary. I doubt we'd take Okposo. Not much else Buffalo has though. Mojo? But to be honest, Mittelstadt would be about right.

McCann + Horny for Montour + Mittelstadt.



Dude, don't do that.

My fault. Wouldn’t want to add any disrespectful sounding trades to a thread chalked full of genuine and fair offers to Buffalo.

On that topic, no to your proposal. Whatever you think of Mittelstadt, you don’t trade him for a 33 year old 5 million dollar winger who’s best days are behind him.

 

[Beerz]

McCann is your 2C, Hornqvist is your Top 9 wing.

It's been discussed before with some amount of acceptance - McCann for Montour. Positions of strength for positions of need for both teams.

Horny could be had for a variety of offers but it depends on salary. I doubt we'd take Okposo. Not much else Buffalo has though. Mojo? But to be honest, Mittelstadt would be about right.

McCann + Horny for Montour + Mittelstadt.



Dude, don't do that.

McCann a 2C? Lol ..

 

[PettersonHughes]

Jake Virtanen and Brandon Sutter for Colin Miller and 2020 2nd and 4th round pick

Jake has had a breakout season, showing top-6 upside.
Sutter has been showing in the playoffs that he can still handle heavy shutdown duties and contribute depth scoring.
I read in an article that the Sabres are looking for bottom 6 help, scoring depth behind Jack and face-off ability. These two can definitely provide that.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Jake Virtanen and Brandon Sutter for Colin Miller and 2020 2nd and 4th round pick

Jake has had a breakout season, showing top-6 upside.
Sutter has been showing in the playoffs that he can still handle heavy shutdown duties and contribute depth scoring.
I read in an article that the Sabres are looking for bottom 6 help, scoring depth behind Jack and face-off ability. These two can definitely provide that.

Sutter is negative value because of his cap hit. Not willing to tie-up almost 5mil for 2yrs in him, can find much better value elsewhere

 

[AKL]

Jake Virtanen and Brandon Sutter for Colin Miller and 2020 2nd and 4th round pick

Jake has had a breakout season, showing top-6 upside.
Sutter has been showing in the playoffs that he can still handle heavy shutdown duties and contribute depth scoring.
I read in an article that the Sabres are looking for bottom 6 help, scoring depth behind Jack and face-off ability. These two can definitely provide that.

A breakout season is when a player shows he is a top 6 player. A 6th overall pick showing he has top 6 upside finally at the age of 24 is not a breakout season.

 

[PettersonHughes]

Sutter is negative value because of his cap hit. Not willing to tie-up almost 5mil for 2yrs in him, can find much better value elsewhere

He's only $500k more than Colin Miller and for one year less. I could see why you'd mention negative value, but the difference isn't as big as you make it sound like. Regardless hope Jack gets the help he needs before he wants out.

 

[elitepete]

Centers:
Gaudette
Sutter
Beagle

Wingers:
Virtanen
Pearson
Roussell
Motte

Any interest?

 

[ETTHAKING67]

Avs could make Jonas Donskoi available depending on if they want to sign Hall. With his contract he would be pretty cheap imo, maybe a pick ?

 

[Eggtimer]

Zacha (2/3 C )
Wood
For ?? Devils need LHD and scoring winger

 

[Djp]

Zacha (2/3 C )
Wood
For ?? Devils need LHD and scoring winger

for Okposo sure. hhe can score on the win. Miller can play LD

 

[Jamie Winston]

Would a deal for saad and strome work for you guys?

 

[tsujimoto74]

Would a deal for saad and strome work for you guys?

Saad is overpaid for what he brings and a pending UFA. Strome is a one-way player who can't skate and, in all likelihood, won't be anywhere near as productive on a team that doesn't have a Patrick Kane to play him with. There are a whole lot of players I'd rather spend assets on.

 

[nickdawg95]

Sutter is negative value because of his cap hit. Not willing to tie-up almost 5mil for 2yrs in him, can find much better value elsewhere

you take out that 2nd round pick and i'd do it. sutter as 3/4c. he is also has one less year than miller See if Virtanen can produce in the top 6 if not he becomes a checking forward in the bottom six.

 

[DesertPenguin]

McCann a 2C? Lol ..

He's actually looked pretty good when asked to fill in for Crosby and Malkin when they get hurt. Those two get hurt a lot. Where McCann struggled was picking up heavier defensive minutes as a 3C.

McCann's best deployment though is as a shooting left wing on a second line. Kid has a rocket of a wrist shot, hardest on the Pens per the coaching staff. Putting him between Marleau and Hornqvist in the playoffs wasn't a good fit for his skill set.

 

[Canuck86]

Wouldn't mind Canucks acquiring Montour or Risto

 

[Canuck86]

Sutter is negative value because of his cap hit. Not willing to tie-up almost 5mil for 2yrs in him, can find much better value elsewhere

Sutter has 1 year left, worst case if Buffalo is a bottom feeder again you flip him at the deadline with retention for a 2nd round pick, he is having a decent playoff showing this year.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Sutter has 1 year left, worst case if Buffalo is a bottom feeder again you flip him at the deadline with retention for a 2nd round pick, he is having a decent playoff showing this year.

I doubt he has that kind of value. He'd basically be a more expensive, less effective replacement for Johan Larsson (if he walks), which doesn't really solve anything. (And I don't think Larsson would've fetched that much at the trade dealine last season either, if he'd been moved, despite doing a much better job winning the possession battle in similarly defensively skewed minutes.)

 

[Fatass]

Wouldn't mind Canucks acquiring Montour or Risto

Me too.
Virtanen, Gaudette, and UFA rights to Tanev for Risto. Don’t know if that’s fair, but the OP wants a top nine winger and a 2/3 centre. Jake and Adam fit into the right age group with Eichel too.

 

[Jamie Winston]

Saad is overpaid for what he brings and a pending UFA. Strome is a one-way player who can't skate and, in all likelihood, won't be anywhere near as productive on a team that doesn't have a Patrick Kane to play him with. There are a whole lot of players I'd rather spend assets on.

Strome spends a lot of time away from kane. Skating has been a problem but he pretty easily has 2nd line center chops. There’s a lot of one way players out there Strome has room to grow defensively but you wouldn’t bring him into PK obviously lol.

 

[bossram]

Me too.
Virtanen, Gaudette, and UFA rights to Tanev for Risto. Don’t know if that’s fair, but the OP wants a top nine winger and a 2/3 centre. Jake and Adam fit into the right age group with Eichel too.

No no no thanks. Do not want Ristolainen. Big cap hit, long-term for a guy who doesn't drive play at even strength. He collects some empty calorie points by playing big minutes and PP. He's basically the same kind of player we already have in Tyler Myers, but worse.

If Buffalo is interested in Virtanen, I would do something like a 2nd round pick + Lawrence Pilut. We're gonna need to create cap space and a right-side of Risto-Myers...at their prices...is no bueno.

I'd rather hold onto Gaudette unless there's a hugely favourable deal available. He's a useful contributor and probably a guy we can grind the cap hit down very low. We'll really need low-cost contributors going forward.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

RNH for Cozens, 1st, Mittelstadt

Awful. Wouldn't trade Cozens for RNH.

The only true untouchables are Eichel, Dahlin, Cozens and Olofsson. Reinhart is most definitely available.RNH is more likely to be the 50-55 point Nuge then the 60-69 point one and I'll take the guy 8 years younger, on an ELC and is projected to be a better more complete center. Cozens is untouchable, he is exactly what the Sabres need, a young long term 60-70 point 2 way 2C with size.

 

[is the answer jesus]

No no no thanks. Do not want Ristolainen. Big cap hit, long-term for a guy who doesn't drive play at even strength. He collects some empty calorie points by playing big minutes and PP. He's basically the same kind of player we already have in Tyler Myers, but worse.

If Buffalo is interested in Virtanen, I would do something like a 2nd round pick + Lawrence Pilut. We're gonna need to create cap space and a right-side of Risto-Myers...at their prices...is no bueno.

I'd rather hold onto Gaudette unless there's a hugely favourable deal available. He's a useful contributor and probably a guy we can grind the cap hit down very low. We'll really need low-cost contributors going forward.

I'd pass on that deal personally, Pilut might not ever play another game for Buffalo, but he's an NHL'er in some capacity. Obviously an early 2nd should hold some value as well (unless we decide to do the usual low ceiling type of pick we like to make there). I'd take a shot on Virtanen based on his tools, but I'd imagine what I'd offer would seem underwhelming to most Canucks fans. it's very concerning hearing the issues about conditioning, and it obviously isn't a good look getting scratched/demoted in important hockey games.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Rodrigues for a 3rd

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Rodrigues for a 3rd

Buffalo doesn’t want Erod back.

 

[bossram]

I'd pass on that deal personally, Pilut might not ever play another game for Buffalo, but he's an NHL'er in some capacity. Obviously an early 2nd should hold some value as well (unless we decide to do the usual low ceiling type of pick we like to make there). I'd take a shot on Virtanen based on his tools, but I'd imagine what I'd offer would seem underwhelming to most Canucks fans. it's very concerning hearing the issues about conditioning, and it obviously isn't a good look getting scratched/demoted in important hockey games.

I definitely think Pilut is an NHLer too. I just didn't think Buffalo valued him very highly, given they've been reluctant to give him a real shot in the lineup.