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MS said:I suspect off-ice stuff is one of the bigger reasons Glen Anderson is not in the HHOF.
we've heard those rumors for decades........but um, doesn't he have a wife and kids?
MS said:I suspect off-ice stuff is one of the bigger reasons Glen Anderson is not in the HHOF.
John Flyers Fan said:I'll take Mark Howe and Brian propp over all 5 of those players, and I wouldn't induct any of them.
Big Phil said:I love Paul Henderosn, met him twice, a class act. And I as much as anybody love the '72 series and appreciate the importance of it and am very glad he saved our bacon in all the last three games. And he did have a decent career, but to compare him to Shutt, Gilles or Barber is way off. Shutt may have benefitted from Lafleur but he was still better than Henderson, as was Gilles even though I think he shouldnt be in the Hall. As for Barber, I wish you had seen him play. He was a first team all star in '76 and second in '79 and '81. His career high in points is 112. Henderson's is 60.
No knock on Paul, but the '72 team was voted the Team of the Century and is already in as a whole in the HOF. That should be good enough.
blamebettman said:we've heard those rumors for decades........but um, doesn't he have a wife and kids?
Moose Head said:I saw all of them play. Combined Henderson had 750 pts in the same era as those guys, which is very comparable career wise. Plus he scored the biggest goal in history to that point. Barber and Shutt were better at their peaks, but career wise they were all very similar.
Epsilon said:Among great international players, I don't think Krutov and Makarov should get in. Larianov definitely will though.
Big Phil said:I definetly thought of Howe for sure as an ommision but Propp? I don't know he's up there too but if you were a star in the 80s and never got 100 points that hurts you. I know he got 90 and up a few times, but still
John Flyers Fan said:I thikn you're right that Larionov WILL get in, but Makarov was clearly the better player.
John Flyers Fan said:I thikn you're right that Larionov WILL get in, but Makarov was clearly the better player.
Epsilon said:At his very best you may be right, but Makarovv's prime wasn't nearly as long.
John Flyers Fan said:Makarov's was better than Larionov from 1978-79 through the 1993-94 season. Larionov was the better player from 1994-95 onward ... when both were past their prime.
Larionov was a very very good hockey player and IMO still the weakest of the famed green unit.
reckoning said:Players who deserve to make it, but won`t get selected when they`re eligible
Eric Lindros
Theoren Fleury
Epsilon said:I think that spread is a bit excessive. We can agree to disagree on this one though.
Valeri Kamensky is another interesting name. Not only was he a key player on a Stanley Cup champion in the twilight of his career, but when he was in his prime, I'm not sure there was anyone better besides Gretzky and Lemieux.
MS said:Kamensky came to the NHL when he was 25, same age Brad Richards and Vincent Lecavalier are now. When Colorado won the Cup, he wasn't in the twilight of his career - he turned 30 during that playoff run.
Moose Head said:If guys like Shutt, Gillies and Barber got in, Henderson should as well. Combine his NHL and WHA numbers and he compares very favourable with those guys who played in virtually the same era.
reckoning said:WHA points aren`t worth the same as NHL points; if we`re going to combine them then guys like Marc Tardif, Real Clouthier, Andre Lacroix, Anders Hedberg, Ralph Backstrom and John McKenzie all come out with more points than Henderson. I don`t think any of those guys have ever seriously been considered HHOF candidates.
silver_made said:wrong
Epsilon said:Valeri Kamensky is another interesting name. Not only was he a key player on a Stanley Cup champion in the twilight of his career, but when he was in his prime, I'm not sure there was anyone better besides Gretzky and Lemieux.
John Flyers Fan said:At one point I thought that Kamensy was the best right winger in hockey, but I wouldn't have said third best player overall. His prime was far too short to get inducted.
Hyped said:No kidding. That's a reach; that's about as far a reach as possible....and Kamensky won me many playoff drafts so I've got nothing bad to say...
MS said:Vachon is kinda dubious to me. Listing Vezinas and Cups make him look better than he actually was