Similar to my last post – I wanted to do a deeper dive on playoff PPG margins over each player’s playoffs. I’m once again piggybacking on
@Art of Sedinery excellent post earlier in this thread where he posted all of this data, post#368.
I sorted out the results by PPG margins. There are 2 tables for Beliveau to capture two different dynasties.
Player | Seasons | Games | Points | PPG | Margin | PPG Margin |
Bobby Hull | 60/61-70/71 | 99 | 118 | 1.19 | | 100.00% |
Gordie Howe | 60/61-70/71 | 59 | 68 | 1.15 | 173.50% | 103.40% |
Stan Mikita | 60/61-70/71 | 100 | 103 | 1.03 | 114.60% | 115.70% |
Jean Beliveau | 60/61-70/71 | 99 | 98 | 0.99 | 120.40% | 120.40% |
Frank Mahovlich | 60/61-70/71 | 86 | 72 | 0.84 | 163.90% | 142.40% |
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Player | Seasons | Games | Points | PPG | Margin | PPG Margin |
Jean Beliveau | 53/54/57/58 | 52 | 66 | 1.27 | 184.80% | 79.40% |
Maurice Richard | 43/44-57/58 | 121 | 122 | 1.01 | | 100.00% |
Bernie Geoffrion | 50/51/57/58 | 87 | 83 | 0.95 | 147.00% | 105.70% |
Gordie Howe | 46/47-57/58 | 89 | 84 | 0.94 | 145.20% | 106.80% |
Ted Lindsay | 44/45-56/57 | 116 | 85 | 0.73 | 143.50% | 137.60% |
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Player | Seasons | Games | Points | PPG | Margin | PPG Margin |
Cooney Weiland | 28/29/33/34 | 25 | 21 | 0.84 | 104.80% | 70.80% |
Charlie Conacher | 30/31-33/34 | 23 | 16 | 0.7 | 137.50% | 85.50% |
Frank Boucher | 26/27-33/34 | 41 | 28 | 0.68 | 78.60% | 87.10% |
Howie Morenz | 23/24-33/34 | 37 | 22 | 0.59 | | 100.00% |
Bill Cook | 26/27-33/34 | 42 | 21 | 0.5 | 104.80% | 118.90% |
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Player | Seasons | Games | Points | PPG | Margin | PPG Margin |
Jean Beliveau | 53/54-57/58 | 52 | 66 | 1.27 | | 100.00% |
Bernie Geoffrion | 53/54-57/58 | 53 | 67 | 1.26 | 98.50% | 100.40% |
Gordie Howe | 53/54-57/58 | 42 | 50 | 1.19 | 132.00% | 106.60% |
Maurice Richard | 53/54-57/58 | 41 | 43 | 1.05 | 153.50% | 121.00% |
Dickie Moore | 53/54-57/58 | 53 | 49 | 0.92 | 134.70% | 137.30% |
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Player | Seasons | Games | Points | PPG | Margin | PPG Margin |
Bobby Hull | 64/65-70/71 | 63 | 73 | 1.16 | 116.40% | 95.30% |
Jean Beliveau | 64/65-70/71 | 77 | 85 | 1.1 | | 100.00% |
Phil Esposito | 64/65-70/71 | 60 | 66 | 1.1 | 128.80% | 100.40% |
Stan Mikita | 64/65-70/71 | 63 | 57 | 0.9 | 149.10% | 122.00% |
Yvan Cournoyer | 64/65-70/71 | 79 | 61 | 0.77 | 139.30% | 143.00% |
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Player | Seasons | Games | Points | PPG | Margin | PPG Margin |
Sidney Crosby | 07/08-17/18 | 155 | 180 | 1.16 | | 100.00% |
Evgeni Malkin | 07/08-17/18 | 153 | 161 | 1.05 | 111.80% | 110.40% |
Patrick Kane | 08/09-16/17 | 127 | 123 | 0.97 | 146.30% | 119.90% |
Alex Ovechkin | 07/08-17/18 | 121 | 117 | 0.97 | 153.80% | 120.10% |
Jonathan Toews | 08/09-16/17 | 128 | 110 | 0.86 | 163.60% | 135.10% |
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Conclusions drawn:
- Bobby Hull looks great, better than expected even at #1. 42% over 5th place, and 3.4% over 2nd place.
- Richard is 37% above Lindsay and approx. 6% over Howe and Geoffrion. Beliveau does look much better than him in this stretch – but in less games & years played.
- Morezn takes a hit here, big time. His out of this world domination of offense in regular season doesn’t hold up come playoff time. He is 4th among peers during those years.
- Beliveau in both stretches looks pretty dominant over 5th place (37% and 43% margins). Still at the very top, he’s practically tied with Geoffrion in the first dynasty years – and is outscored by Hull from 65-71.
- Crosby has by far the largest sample (155 games – even adding both of Beliveau’s stretches he’s at 129 games). All of his contemporaries have large enough sample sizes to be compared to (nothing like Beliveau vs Richard in half the games), and he does very well over all of them. 10% over 2nd place is the largest gap here, as is 19% over 3rd place. At 35% over 5th place he loses ground and is 5th, but it’s still pretty close to most numbers (37%-43%) in a much bigger sample size of games played.
To me Crosby once again comes out ahead in playoffs PPG.
If I had to combine the last 2 posts I made, taking everything into account (competition, games played, domination, etc) I would rank in regular season PPG domination over prime:
1. Crosby
2. Morenz
3. Beliveau
4. Hull
5. Richard
For playoffs it would be:
1. Crosby
2. Beliveau
3. Hull
4. Richard
5. Morenz
I think you could almost inverse Hull and Beliveau at 2 and 3 for playoffs. I ended up giving Beliveau the edge due to more games played, but in terms of %’s Hull actually should be #2.