Tom Gilbert - Am I good or am I bad?
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Looks more like a "Bell center's RTS scorers hands out giveaways like they're going out of style" problem more than a "Habs Dmen are prone to having alot more giveaways (but mostly at the Bell center) than any other teams D" problem.
Crazy on ice save%. But still, I like Gilbert. You can kinda see him being not used to our Dzone / breakout system (by the fact that the Habs do not appear to actually have any breakout strategies beyond long pass/slap it out of the zone/icing) but you can see he's a smart player.
Le Barron de HF
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He's a bigger and more polished Diaz, not disappointed at all. People just don't appreciate what he brings in terms of transitional game and stickchecking/defending.
plays over 20 minutes a game, + 7 rating. can't really complain. no offence to Habs fans, but you don't have to complain about EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME!
Gilbert is an improvement over Gorges.
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Well I don't agree about the good defense and being not caught out of position. People blamed Gonchar yesterday on that goal when Gilbert was incredibly soft. You're giving me that same argument as we kept hearing a lot of times about the great Raphael Diaz. Of course, Gilbert is better. But doesn't bring anything than to be okay and be a good filler for spot #5. Which we have too many of right now. We have a PK who doesn't play like a #1. We have a good Markov as #2. We have a Emelin who doesn't play a whole lot as #3. And then the rest are #5 and #6. Gilbert was suppose to help our 2nd PP. Clearly doesn't do it. And his soft and bad decision making do not make him a top 4, which was the whole point of getting. This is not about being satisfied with a guy who is okay as a bottom 2 d-man. It's about solidifying our D. And since nobody is leaving our squad except Weaver who could, Gilbert with somebody else might be helpful in getting a true upgrade. Is this team supposed to be a contender? And if so, Gilbert CLEARLY fills the portrait of a top 4 in a contending team? I'm expecting more.
Deluded Puck
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Better version of Diaz. I Think he would look good with Emelin alongside him on the 2nd pairing. None of or D look particularly great in their own zone, a lot of that has to do with the team not getting the best X's and O's.
Gilbert skates well, moves the puck well, and he'll surely get some points alongside Pleks, Chucky and Subban on the 2nd wave PP.
He's perfectly fine as filler until Beaulieu & Tinordi are ready to take over for the true cup window.
However none of this matters because he's not overly physical and doesn't hit
Gilbert skates well, moves the puck well, and he'll surely get some points alongside Pleks, Chucky and Subban on the 2nd wave PP.
He's perfectly fine as filler until Beaulieu & Tinordi are ready to take over for the true cup window.
However none of this matters because he's not overly physical and doesn't hit
Tom Gilbert has been good, but not a top 4 in Montreal. He fits in well as a #5 with the Habs. I don't expect him to put up lots of points, but he's been solid in his own end, despite the turn-overs. Salary is not bad, but lenght is a concern for me.
Hackett
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See, he was touted as being a good analytics player, and it seems like that's the way its going in Montreal too.
However, when I watch him play, I feel like he is slow and a turnover threat under physical pressure.
So I have my perception saying one thing (that he's just kind of your average NHL d-man). Then there is the anaytical side suggesting he's one of the more undervalued players in this league.
As a result, I don't know what to think.
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I don't think there's a single team in the league looking to take on 6.3 mil in cap.
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Dwight
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Reminds me a bit of Spacek. You see him on the ice and wonder what's going on but somehow he's +9 rating while everyone else is at 0.
He's fine for what he is. Hasn't hurt us this year.
He's fine for what he is. Hasn't hurt us this year.
I think Bergevin went and got Gonchar because Gilbert wasn't doing what he was brought in to do.
Amazing that Gonchar is playing like a top 4 dman and looks good with Emelin.
Our top six:
Markov Subban
Emelin Gonchar
Gilbert Weaver
I hope Beaulieu can unseat Gilbert at some point this season, but I don't think it will happen. Beaulieu will play as the 7th dman and when there's an injury until he proves to MT that he's a head above Gilbert.
Amazing that Gonchar is playing like a top 4 dman and looks good with Emelin.
Our top six:
Markov Subban
Emelin Gonchar
Gilbert Weaver
I hope Beaulieu can unseat Gilbert at some point this season, but I don't think it will happen. Beaulieu will play as the 7th dman and when there's an injury until he proves to MT that he's a head above Gilbert.
I never said he's mistake free, so point to one instance, or even 5 for that matter, is irrelevant. Mistakes will always be made. I agree that offensively he hasn't been what we'd hope. Maybe that will change. Still, he's not as bad as people make him seem.
Is Handzus a #2 center on a cup team? Winning teams can have weak spots.
AboveandBeyond
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What I've seen with him is that he is a *****. He pinches in like a 12 year old girl afraid to get hit every time.
