Confirmed with Link: Toffoli for Sharangovich (Signed @ 2 years $3.1 Million AAV), 2023 3rd round pick (CGY - #80)

[Mobiandi]

Idk feels like we could have retained and asked for at least a 1st. Sharangovich is just a replaceable 3rd liner

 

[super6646]

Maybe Conroy shouldn’t trade Lindholm and Hanifin yet. Would have got more at the deadline. Conroy starts out with a dud.

Or maybe ppl need to start clawing back expectations lol.

I’ve seen flames fans propose the third overall pick+ for lindholm on cp for example… like ya gl with that.

 

[Kranix]

Sharangovich has potential. He's skilled and younger

 

[super6646]

Idk feels like we could have retained and asked for at least a 1st. Sharangovich is just a replaceable 3rd liner

I think us not retaining is a sign of where things are going

 

[Sparky93]

Am i missing something? In the sharangovich thread is full of proposals around early 2nd/late 1st value. Is this dude not just a 3rd liner?

In all fairness, isn't that what Toffoli was on the championship Kings teams?

 

[crazyfisherman]

In all fairness, isn't that what Toffoli was on the championship Kings teams?

Thats why im kinda coming around now, toffoli was a career 40-50 pt guy

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

Underwhelmed, banking on improvement… I dunno. Guess we’ll see how he performs.

 

[Sparky93]

I think us not retaining is a sign of where things are going

100%, war room is in lock down, with the old boys navigating into uncharted retool waters, unsupervised. ...for the first time.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

So with the Flames re-acquiring their own third round pick in this trade, I wondered if there is a potential RFA offer sheet target? (then I checked the calendar)

I think we'll be happy with this trade, and actually was hoping to maybe ship Vladar and stuff to get him after they traded goalie earlier.

 

[Bond]

Or maybe ppl need to start clawing back expectations lol.

I’ve seen flames fans propose the third overall pick+ for lindholm on cp for example… like ya gl with that.

Nah. I think it just cements they’ll over pay Lindholm and do a half assed retool with some futures sprinkled in. This is totally something for the roster now and something for later. I also don’t have a lot faith in the Flames pro scouts lol. Brouwer, Neal, Kadri, and even Huberdeau isn’t a great track record.

 

[Dack]

Because jack hughes was so good when he had 31pts in 56 games during sharangovich's first yr and missed 32 the next yr? Mustve been carried am i right


But he wasnt a star then, in yr 2 yes but not in availability

Hughes was already on the path to stardom I'm year 2. You should watch some of his highlights from that season. The only reason he wasn't a ~ PPG player was because the Devils were terrible and he hadn't found his finishing touch yet.

I've seen a decent amount of Debils games over the last few years (probably more than any other Eastern Conference team) and I never came away all that impressed by Sharangovich. He's fine but I don't think he's a needle mover.

Who knows. Maybe he breaks out big here but I'm not betting on it.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So with the Flames re-acquiring their own third round pick in this trade, I wondered if there is a potential RFA offer sheet target? (then I checked the calendar)

I think we'll be happy with this trade, and actually was hoping to maybe ship Vladar and stuff to get him after they traded goalie earlier.

Oiler fan, in peace, yadda yadda.

I really thought Calgary would have gotten more for Toffoli. Yeah, he's slow, but he was far and away the most dangerous Flame last year.

I don't know if you'd care to bandy about the value, but I would have offered a 1st and a guy like Yamamoto or maybe Foegele without really having to think much about it.

As for offer sheet... I guess maybe, but Calgary only has 5.5 mil in space before signing Sharangovich so I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[lightstorm]

Oiler fan, in peace, yadda yadda.

I really thought Calgary would have gotten more for Toffoli. Yeah, he's slow, but he was far and away the most dangerous Flame last year.

I don't know if you'd care to bandy about the value, but I would have offered a 1st and a guy like Yamamoto or maybe Foegele without really having to think much about it.

As for offer sheet... I guess maybe, but Calgary only has 5.5 mil in space before signing Sharangovich so I wouldn't bet on it.

Replace Yama with Holloway and I'd have considered it.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Replace Yama with Holloway and I'd have considered it.

yeah, we wouldn't have done that haha. Holloway and yamamoto I might have considered but we'd need to move some money, much like the Devils did with a guy they couldn't afford anymore.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Oiler fan, in peace, yadda yadda.

I really thought Calgary would have gotten more for Toffoli. Yeah, he's slow, but he was far and away the most dangerous Flame last year.

I don't know if you'd care to bandy about the value, but I would have offered a 1st and a guy like Yamamoto or maybe Foegele without really having to think much about it.

As for offer sheet... I guess maybe, but Calgary only has 5.5 mil in space before signing Sharangovich so I wouldn't bet on it.

Yeah, value is maybe a bit weak - I certainly would have taken either of yours instead of what they got.

For me though, and admittedly this may be a bit of copium, but you almost hope to get a Sharangovich-type with a very late first round pick, and most would consider that pick successful. So sure thing vs. mystery box. If you consider the deal a 1st and a 3rd, it's about the consensus as to what was reasonably Toffoli's value as an asset. So I'm not as disappointed as some first reactions. Yet.

As for the offer sheet, I'm stupid and realized after that the 2023 picks will be spent by free agency.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I also enjoy reading about the adventures of the Flames third round pick over the years.

 

[crazyfisherman]

Hughes was already on the path to stardom I'm year 2. You should watch some of his highlights from that season. The only reason he wasn't a ~ PPG player was because the Devils were terrible and he hadn't found his finishing touch yet.

I've seen a decent amount of Debils games over the last few years (probably more than any other Eastern Conference team) and I never came away all that impressed by Sharangovich. He's fine but I don't think he's a needle mover.

Who knows. Maybe he breaks out big here but I'm not betting on it.

All im gonna say is i dont buy he's carried around by jack hughes when hes actually had pretty much the same ppg in 20/21 and hughes missed a bunch of games in 21/22

 

[InfinityIggy]

I really really like Sharangovich.

However. This is an atrocious deal. My greatest fear is that Conroy will be like Feaster in that he gets absolutely worked over on the trade market and this trade is some ominous forshadowing.

If someone had posted this on the board they would’ve been quite rightly raked over the coals.

Extremely nervous for what the Lindholm, Backlund and Hanifin returns are going to be. Based off of this we are f***ed.

Will see.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I also enjoy reading about the adventures of the Flames third round pick over the years.

We absolutely need to draft Felix Unger Sörum with that pick. He has Backlund potential in his prime. It'll take him 2-3 years before he's NHL ready, but I'm extremely high on him.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

We just got our future captain, folks. Relax!

 

[StreetHawk]

Yeah, value is maybe a bit weak - I certainly would have taken either of yours instead of what they got.

For me though, and admittedly this may be a bit of copium, but you almost hope to get a Sharangovich-type with a very late first round pick, and most would consider that pick successful. So sure thing vs. mystery box. If you consider the deal a 1st and a 3rd, it's about the consensus as to what was reasonably Toffoli's value as an asset. So I'm not as disappointed as some first reactions. Yet.

As for the offer sheet, I'm stupid and realized after that the 2023 picks will be spent by free agency.

Is it that weak an offer? He returned a 2nd round pick and former 3rd round pick prospect Tyler Madden as a TDL rental.

He's now basically a full season rental. Yegor, buys them a year to figure out their team and direction as he is UFA in 2025. I don't foresee NJ extending him for 3-4 more seasons at greater than a $3.5 mill cap hit.

 

[Boomstick]

Thank you TT, Welcome Yegor.
Don't know much about Sharangovich.

 

[TheHudlinator]

Well Conroy's trades can only get better (I hope). But man that is garbage value

 

[danyhabsfan]

At the deadline you'd have received a 2nd +
Why did Conroy jump on that?

 

[Kranix]

At the deadline you'd have received a 2nd +
Why did Conroy jump on that?

You mean at the 2023 deadline?