Confirmed with Link: Toffoli (50% retained) off to Winnipeg for a 2024 3rd and 2025 2nd rounder per Seravalli

[JrFischer54]

Except the whole point is most people are expecting that pick to be used in another trade. A 2nd and 3rd round pick isn’t junk.

yes it is junk. a 3rd is total junk a 2nd is a little less junk but still junk.

 

[devilsblood]

Underwhelming return but better tuen bringing him back.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

I think the rule of thumb is that a pick a year later is worth a round less value. I know the NFL looks at it that way.

I don’t think it would be the same in the NHL.

NHL and NFL drafts aren’t similar at all and I think the value in draft picks from round to round is a lot closer in the NFL.

 

[JrFischer54]

This is still very much a rebuilding team.

someone should tell that to fitz then because when he traded for timo last year he told us now is the time for us to compete.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

yes it is junk. a 3rd is total junk a 2nd is a little less junk but still junk.

It really isn’t whatsoever. Not Gonna get you anything huge on their own but valuable trade pieces.

 

[Killing Joke]

This is still very much a rebuilding team.

Rebuilding teams dont hit 112 points. That's a organizational failure if they are going back to rebuilding after making the playoffs and being the third best team in the east.

You're either coping or not very in touch.

 

[devilsblood]

yes it is junk. a 3rd is total junk a 2nd is a little less junk but still junk.

But thats the market. The league knows he’s slow.

 

[forceten]

My guess is the plan for W is to look at UFA. We probably need LW more than RW, with Meier and Holtz and Bratt there. LWs include Guentzel, Teravainen, Mantha (all 29 right now), Henrique (34), DuClair (28), Martinook (31), Zucker (32)... there could be something there.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

then you don't trade him. people(teams) have to stop selling for junk. tofolli legitimately will help their cup chances and thats only worth a 2/3 in 2025? get lost!

He’ll help their cup chances by like 0.5% or something.

 

[JrFischer54]

these picks today aren't going to move the needle on getting us a goalie which is what we need the most importantly for next season. the ask is still going to be holtz first and something else or casey first and something else.

 

[Triumph]

If winnipeg wanted Toffoli, Fitz should've told them it's Montreal's 2nd or they can f*** themselves. If you offer the same deal (2024 3rd, 2025 2nd) to the universe you get 5 takers immediately.

Huh, weird. Fitzgerald must just be completely incompetent, then. Toffoli must've been a highly sought after player and Fitzgerald just took less for no reason. When you explain it that way, it makes a lot of sense.

 

[NJDfan86]

yes it is junk. a 3rd is total junk a 2nd is a little less junk but still junk.

The Devils traded a second and 3rd round pick to acquire Kyle Palmieri who went on to score 266 points in 397 games with the Devils.

They don't have to actually make the picks, and frankly it would be surprising if they did.

 

[JrFischer54]

He’ll help their cup chances by like 0.5% or something.

pretty much the same % that the 2nd/3rd round pick we getting back will contribute in the nhl

 

[Captain3rdLine]

these picks today aren't going to move the needle on getting us a goalie which is what we need the most importantly for next season. the ask is still going to be holtz first and something else or casey first and something else.

Except that probably isn’t the ask. I think most of us believe Fitz would absolutely have made that deal if that was the ask. The ask is clearly more and we’ve heard that they have been asking for Nemec or Mercer.

 

[Lou Bloom]

I think the rule of thumb is that a pick a year later is worth a round less value. I know the NFL looks at it that way.

The NFL is not comparable. Draft picks make immediate impacts in the NFL and due to 22 different positions there’s a lot less variance between a good draft and a bad draft. The difference in the NHL between 2024 2nd and a 2025 2nd is negligible.

 

[OmNomNom]

looking at zucker's return, i guess this isn't too bad



wtf is up w this market

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Rebuilding teams dont hit 112 points. That's a organizational failure if they are going back to rebuilding after making the playoffs and being the third best team in the east.

You're either coping or not very in touch.

112 point teams don’t often have 19 and 20 year old dmen in prominent roles. We are in a strange spot — both competing and obviously not there yet.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

pretty much the same % that the 2nd/3rd round pick we getting back will contribute in the nhl

That’s just bs. And again, everyone hopes the picks are used in a trade

 

[JrFischer54]

The Devils traded a second and 3rd round pick to acquire Kyle Palmieri who went on to score 266 points in 397 games with the Devils.

They don't have to actually make the picks, and frankly it would be surprising if they did.

they used similar packages for mojo/mango/goose and how did they turn out

 

[britdevil]

The Toffoli era ends in a whimper.

 

[ndkjr70]

Huh, weird. Fitzgerald must just be completely incompetent, then. Toffoli must've been a highly sought after player and Fitzgerald just took less for no reason. When you explain it that way, it makes a lot of sense.

Ahh, see! I knew we'd eventually agree.

 

[Killing Joke]

Jake Allen lmao. My god someone old yeller tom.

 

[longislanddevil]

Hello, Jake Allen

 

[VoidCreature]

Junk. Much rather have Rango.

 

[longislanddevil]

With one year left on his contract after this one, it looks like Allen will be our backup goalie once we acquire whoever will be our starter.