It's not forcing anything. He played the right side on the Marlies, in junior, and occasionally with the Leafs. Not sure where you get the impression that he needs to be on the left.
Timothy "Lillypad" Liljegren Discussion || UPD 1/14/2020 -- Recalled by the Leafs and returned
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It's not forcing anything. He played the right side on the Marlies, in junior, and occasionally with the Leafs. Not sure where you get the impression that he needs to be on the left.
He's only 20. If he were Canadian, this would be his first year of pro.
I agree but he already been unspectacular IMO so if he hasnt improved in his third year I dont see him recovering. His preseason was horrid. He looked like our worst D.
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I have the is feeling Dermott is going to be a discarded Leaf and will become very good for someone else at a steal of a price. Historically the Leafs let go good D.
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After the 2020 season, we could be potentially looking at this:
Rielly - RD
Dermott - RD
Sandin - Liljegren
We need inexpensive, young talent. We need to keep Dermott.
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Dermott isn't being dealt unless he needs to be included in a deal for a greater piece...Not sure of the Cap forecast ,but I doubt Barrie is kept and if the Leafs are sucking at the deadline ,he should be dealt. I doubt that happens,but ya never know!
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We can not afford a "greater piece" without trading a big name player. Keep in mind Rielly is going to get paid big bucks
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With Barrie, Ceci, Muzzin set to become UFA's, how do you see the Leafs walking away from a cost controlled young homegrown defenseman?
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If one of the above players is not staying we have other issues. I would hope we try and keep two of those rentals, I mean, I hope this doesn't turn into a high turnaround team. That doesn't work in business with employees either. Regardless, when Dermott gets paid, I am guessing it's going to be a lot if given the chance. If not given the chance, will he simply pull the Marner and Nylander card and show advanced stats and usage etc? Can of worms.
We could easily do
Muzz. Barrie
Rielly. Dermott
Sandin. Lily or 6th D
I am keeping an eye on the pie situation as a long shot.
He and Tavares are super close apparently and bob has brought him up x2 unprovoked
There's nothing to "recover" from. He's 20 years old...
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How anyone who watched the games can think someone other than Harpur, Rubins or Schmaltz were the worst I'll never know
Pietrangelo, sign Dermott cheap hopefully an fill the other RD spot with whoever near league minimum. Split Rielly and Pietrangelo between the young kids in the top 4 and let Dermott carry the third pair.
Sandin-Pietrangelo
Rielly-Liljegren
Dermott-???
-Would cost roughly the same as this years d-core, maybe a little more expensive if you pay Dermott around $2M on a short term deal. Hopefully you develop Sandin/Liljegren into a Ekholm/Ellis situation.
Schmaltz was wayyyyy better than Lil in the preseason. Harpur actually did things, good and bad. Lilly couldn't even make a first pass, he turned the puck over a bunch, and he had a hard time covering defensively - all while playing less than 15 mins most games. It was pretty clear to me.
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I think we're set up fine still. Rielly will likely have Dermott as a partner next season. Sandin playing second pairing with Muzzin/Barrie/Pietrangelo or whomever we use our money on. That leaves a third pairing with (hopefully) Liljegren on it. It's not the top-end group that we have now, but it's still good.
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Rielly Ceci
Muzzin Barrie
Sandin Dermott
He will be used as an injury replacement player when Dermott comes back and then will take over as Muzzin's replacement next year..
Dermott Barrie
Rielly Liljegren
Sandin Ceci
Muzzin Barrie
Sandin Dermott
He will be used as an injury replacement player when Dermott comes back and then will take over as Muzzin's replacement next year..
Dermott Barrie
Rielly Liljegren
Sandin Ceci
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He played badly in the preseason but on the Marlies he's playing great
Babs was his coach in the preseason but under Keefe he's playing great
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It's nice what having a coach who gives you confidence can do, plus a system that works.He played badly in the preseason but on the Marlies he's playing great
Babs was his coach in the preseason but under Keefe he's playing great
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Leafs need to stop letting UFA's walk for nothing, even Ceci could get us a late round pick. If we cant sign them, trade them before they walk.
Schmaltz is horrible. Why did we get him? Absolutely worst player on team right now.
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But Dubas said Ceci has been great.
Apparently his advance stats have been really good according to Dubas. He looks like a tire fire and and singlehandedly made an All Star look like a 7th dman.
