Time to get rid of the offside review?

[Dr Black]

Nah. Prevents the guy 10 feet offsides who scored from counting.

So they correct 5 wrong goals a week? Sounds good to me.

Yea, it sucks when a guy is 3 feet offside and the linesmen miss it. (Happens once or twice a year) You must ask, what is the alternative???

The alternative is a coaching staff delaying a game because a play is close and it MIGHT be offside. Then in some cases, the play is examined under a microscope using super slow motion replay taking up to 5 MINUTES. If they can determine that the play was so much as 1 CM offside, the goal is disallowed.

DO YOU NOT SEE THE INSANITY OF THAT???

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

You guys are acting as if a 5 minute delay to your NHL hockey is the worst thing to ever have inflicted upon you.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

Nah just put a timer on the rule if the offside wasn't a factor in the play that led to the goal it shouldn't matter.

But if a ref misses a blatant 3 foot offside that leads to a breakaway goal that should absolutely be reviewable

The only reason this stupid rule exists in the first place is because Duchene once scored a goal in Buffalo where he was offside by ten yards.

Then everyone overreacted.

Get rid of this rule and good God instate a timer on instant replay - if you can't figure it out for certain within a minute using modern HD cameras, the call on the ice stands.

 

[La Bamba]

I don't like the rule. It's dumb when a goal is disallowed when a player is like 2 cm offside and the 5 min delay kinda kills the vibe of the game, especially if it is disallowed.

Just allow a few mistakes regarding offsides here and there, human error by the referees should just be part of the game.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

You guys are acting as if a 5 minute delay to your NHL hockey is the worst thing to ever have inflicted upon you.

It's stupid. You have refs for a reason. If a call goes against you, sucks to be you but that's sport and that's life.

I'm a Flames fan - I cannot stand hearing people talk about 2004 saying 'it was in'. Not really. The video evidence makes it appear as though it may have been but it's certainly not conclusive and certainly not enough to overturn the no goal call on the ice.

The only reason anyone scores in pro sports is because a mistake is made by someone somewhere. A defenseman makes a bad pinch, an DB falls down, the winger doesn't take his man, the outfielder misjudges the ball off the bat.

Do they all get do overs now because they screwed up? Of course not. It makes no sense to hold the officials to the standard of perfect or bust, but we have to appease crybaby owners so the rest of us plebs can use the extra time to get another $15 pint of Coors.

 

[Brainiac]

I don't mind the reviews, but it's definitely overused. Especially as there's some pretty blatant stuff going unnoticed.

 

[NotWendell]

Yes. Then give the refs the option to review high sticking calls.

 

[Semantics]

Surprised no one has brought up that play last week where McDavid was onside by more than a foot, and the linesman blew the whistle. Would have been a partial or maybe full breakaway for him.

The linesmen err on the side of blowing the whistle now if they're not sure, because it's embarrassing to everyone to go through the review, and it's taking away great scoring chances.

Really garage league rule.

 

[SladeWilson23]

Nobody cared about a missed offside call in the past. This is equivalent to balls and strikes. It's completely unnecessary to have a goal overturned due to a missed offside call. A missed offside call is not the end of the world. It doesn't inhibit the defense from preventing the goal.

 

[Dr Black]

You guys are acting as if a 5 minute delay to your NHL hockey is the worst thing to ever have inflicted upon you.

A blatant miss on an offside call takes less than 15 seconds to determine. Any longer, they are just looking for an offside. The spirit of this rule was to eliminate blatant missed calls, not offsides that so close that they are impossible to detect with the naked eye.

So a 5 minute delay for video offside is absurd!

 

[SEALBound]

You either have rules or you don't. Where's the line...is it an inch? What about an inch and a half? What about two? A foot?

 

[Korpse]

Nobody cared about a missed offside call in the past. This is equivalent to balls and strikes. It's completely unnecessary to have a goal overturned due to a missed offside call. A missed offside call is not the end of the world. It doesn't inhibit the defense from preventing the goal.

People have always cared when it results in a goal.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I hate it.

 

[Dr Black]

You either have rules or you don't. Where's the line...is it an inch? What about an inch and a half? What about two? A foot?

We let the linesmen make the call regarding the rules. It worked out fine for the last 100 years. There was no need to change it.

 

[major major]

Offside review is horrendous, get rid of it.

 

[Bizz]

The rule should be changed to if there is a change in possession before the goal but after the alleged offsides it cannot be reviewed.

 

[major major]

You either have rules or you don't. Where's the line...is it an inch? What about an inch and a half? What about two? A foot?

If it's so small that the linesmen can't see it in real time, then it's not offsides. Make that the legal rule and there isn't any legalist v realist debate anymore.

 

[Calendal]

I would like to change the rule, not for flow of game but because it causes less goals to happen (not only because "wrong") goals are overturned.

Suppose a team spends 30 seconds in offensive zone after offside. If they score, they roll back the clock. If they don't, 30 seconds of timr during which something could have happened is effectively lost.

 

[SladeWilson23]

If it's so small that the linesmen can't see it in real time, then it's not offsides. Make that the legal rule and there isn't any legalist v realist debate anymore.

Totally agreed.

 

[aviators99]

Suppose a team spends 30 seconds in offensive zone after offside. If they score, they roll back the clock. If they don't, 30 seconds of timr during which something could have happened is effectively lost.

Yes! This is what most people are missing. And it's not "effectively lost", it's "lost". Two hypotheticals:

1. Team is on a power play. They skate in the zone offsides and it doesn't get called. They spend most of the power play still in the zone before they score. It gets called no-goal due to a challenge. Through no fault of their own they just lost their whole power play.

2. Team is down by one with 1 minute left. They skate into the zone, stay there and score with 2 seconds left. Overturned due to offsides. There goes the game.

In both of these cases, if the ref had gotten the offsides call right they would have had a chance to win the faceoff outside the zone and score, or score some other way during the time lost. But due to the ref, they now don't have time to do so. This is completely unfair.

Should a proper strategy be that if you think the ref erred by not calling offsides you should take the puck back out of the zone yourself??? And I don't think you'd notice a 2cm offsides...

The rule should go away. If it stays, they should reset the clock (and PP clock) to when the offsides happened.

 

[PavelBure10]

Im not a fan of the review at all. Seems like every goal gets reviewed. Goaltender interference is a joke now, you cant sneeze in the crease without the goal being called back. The game needs to be simplified again, shootouts, video replays, loser points. Way too much.

 

[Rebels57]

They need to get rid of the coaches ability to challenge it. Toronto should control it just in case there is an egregious miss due to sheer linesman incompetence; which has happened. The plays where a guy is offsides by a millimeter where it has no effect on the play and a hard-earned goal is called back is frankly maddening.

 

[TaLoN]

It's perfectly fine as is.

 

[Korpse]

They need to get rid of the coaches ability to challenge it. Toronto should control it just in case there is an egregious miss due to sheer linesman incompetence; which has happened. The plays where a guy is offsides by a millimeter where it has no effect on the play and a hard-earned goal is called back is frankly maddening.

If you are offside you are offside, that's like saying well the puck only crossed the line by a millimeter so it shouldn't be a goal.

 

[SladeWilson23]

If you are offside you are offside, that's like saying well the puck only crossed the line by a millimeter so it shouldn't be a goal.

No it's not. If that were the case every single missed offside calls would go to review, and not just the ones that lead to a goal.

Bottom line is that a missed offside call is not a big deal. Like I said, it's equivalent to balls and strikes.