Man Bear Pig
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It's up there but it's debatable as far as being the best. You could argue for Pittsburgh,Columbus,Anaheim,Chicago,LA etc.
Sportsnet: Time for the Flyers to listen on offers for Giroux?
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It's up there but it's debatable as far as being the best. You could argue for Pittsburgh,Columbus,Anaheim,Chicago,LA etc.
lids19
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Yes. I'm not a habs fan or philly fan but I think it's a good deal for both teams
What do u think
Ghost with Weber on the pp
Giroux 1st line C. With patches
On phillys side serg and provorov
And a young galchenyuk to fit in with that core
ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
Personally (not a Flyers fan) selling low on Giroux seems pretty dumb. The D is in transition between generations. If you can't get the puck out? How do you score? Voracek is a much better trading chip. Tying up that kind of money in winger seems a bit crazy.
A couple things that need to be considered (that Flyers fans can probably answer):
1) When is PHI expected to be cup competitive next? (how many years)
2) Giroux is 29 and likely starts to decline in 2 years. Does it make sense to try and maximize his return value now if they dont enter cup contender status before he starts to slip?
3) Does PHI have suitable talent in the pipeline coming up to possible replace him? Or at least target a young upside player via trade to acquire in return?
4) Giroux has four more years left after this. Does PHI need some cap relief down the line the next few years?
I love Giroux and he shouldnt be moved for the sake of being moved, but Giroux and the PHI organization seem to be in that tweener stage where you could argue either way based on where the franchise is, if it makes sense to not make a move on trading Giroux right now if the price is right
1) When is PHI expected to be cup competitive next? (how many years)
2) Giroux is 29 and likely starts to decline in 2 years. Does it make sense to try and maximize his return value now if they dont enter cup contender status before he starts to slip?
3) Does PHI have suitable talent in the pipeline coming up to possible replace him? Or at least target a young upside player via trade to acquire in return?
4) Giroux has four more years left after this. Does PHI need some cap relief down the line the next few years?
I love Giroux and he shouldnt be moved for the sake of being moved, but Giroux and the PHI organization seem to be in that tweener stage where you could argue either way based on where the franchise is, if it makes sense to not make a move on trading Giroux right now if the price is right
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galchenyuk and Sergachev plus player or pick for Giroux.
Monster in playoffs and best faceoffs guy in NHL or top 3 easily.
Monster in playoffs and best faceoffs guy in NHL or top 3 easily.
Selling low is a no-no.
FatTugboatFlahr
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For those worried about Giroux's decline, you should watch a game and see how our team plays. Our coach has completely destroyed any offensive creativity this team has.
I'll admit G's best days are behind him, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he went to a different team and started piling up the points. He's still a great player and leader.
I'll admit G's best days are behind him, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he went to a different team and started piling up the points. He's still a great player and leader.
LI Fly Guy
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1. Could be 2 years. All depends on how good Sanheim/Morin/Myers are and one of the goalies in the pipeline.
2. No. Because he's not playing up to his ability. It would be foolish to trade him while his value is at an all time low.
3. They do not have a 1C in the system right now, but Rubstov looks like he could be special. Our hope is we have such a plethora at D we can do a Seth jones esque trade for a 1 when that time comes.
4. Absolutely not. About to have 22 million in space with everyone besides Ghost and a goalie needing to be signed. Ghost would probably be under 4 AAV unless he takes a really long bridge deal. We have Lindblom coming next year. I'm good with G having that cap hit even at a 2C if we become a cup
Contender. It would be nice to have a beloved guy who spent his entire career here finally winning one with us rather then going somewhere else.
If only the Oilers had a young, 2C, signed for term at 6m per, who is excellent against Eastern teams...
They have Galchenyuk who I'd much rather have than Giroux when taking age, contract, and recent production into accountIf only the Oilers had a young, 2C, signed for term at 6m per, who is excellent against Eastern teams...
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All depends how they view Chucky.
If they think he won't be a #1, and instead a 60 point winger, then maybe they do trade him for G.
With Price and MaxP having 3 playoff runs left on their deals, and adding Weber, if they are going to go "all in", now is the time.
But who knows, maybe they go after someone like Duchene instead and then try and re-sign him when the time comes.
Even star players have bad years is something I have to mention here. Getzlaf had a 57 point year and it was pretty much declared on HF he was done at that point. Then next year after he was over PPG.
For Flyers I suppose it could make sense to put Giroux on the table, because of their youth in D specifically, but he shouldn't (and wouldn't) be traded for lesser pieces.
For Flyers I suppose it could make sense to put Giroux on the table, because of their youth in D specifically, but he shouldn't (and wouldn't) be traded for lesser pieces.
Chucky + Sergachev + 2nd for Giroux
Flyers then flip Sergachev+1st for Duchene.
PHI Gets: Chucky, Duchene, MTL 2nd
MTL gets: Giroux
Col gets: Sergachev, PHI 1st.
Flyers then flip Sergachev+1st for Duchene.
PHI Gets: Chucky, Duchene, MTL 2nd
MTL gets: Giroux
Col gets: Sergachev, PHI 1st.
Appleyard
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Crazy what a 20 game span does to peoples minds.
Giroux was 11th in league scoring and pacing for ~75 points just before Xmas ~35 games into the season... while scoring at the same rate 5v5 as last year... where he was top 100 in the leagues in 5v5 P/60 and scoring at 1st line level.
Giroux was 11th in league scoring and pacing for ~75 points just before Xmas ~35 games into the season... while scoring at the same rate 5v5 as last year... where he was top 100 in the leagues in 5v5 P/60 and scoring at 1st line level.
Hey - I love Giroux - currently waiting on my 50th Anniversary G jersey to arrive - but if everyone else is going crazy, I'm going crazy too.
That is not going to happen. Way to much going out of Montreal.
Habs could get Duchene for less and still save 2+ mil per.
Why would anyone need an article to suggest someone is "listening" on someone. Everyone is listening on everyone.
Asquaredx2
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I'm sure nothing will happen, but hypothetically how about Turris + Brown + White? I'm guessing Chabot wouldn't appeal to the Flyers quite as much.
Sens/I would love to bring G back to the NCR and finally give EK the franchise forward he deserves.
Sens/I would love to bring G back to the NCR and finally give EK the franchise forward he deserves.
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Yea, those were good trades. The decline of Philly had much more to do with the decline of Pronger + Timonen + Briere, Carle leaving for free agency, etc.
Swapping Carter + M. Richards (who isn't even an NHLer now) for Couturier + Simmonds + B. Schenn + Voracek would completely decimate them.
Appleyard
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And Cousins... who is our 3C atm!
It ended up effectively being:
Richards
Carter
Rob Bordson
for
Voracek
Simmonds
Schenn
1st (Couturier)
3rd (Cousins)
2nd (flipped for Grossmann... who helped get rid of Pronger contract while also garnering a 4th round pick... which is Connor Bunnaman.)
