Player Discussion Tim Stützle | 3rd OVR 2020 | C | Part III

[Liver King]

Can't wait to see him play Center

They should put him with Brady or Paul on his wing so they can support with key draws as he starts in the role

 

[jhutter]

Stutzle's shot is pretty impressive. How he gets so much velocity on such a quick release is amazing.

And if I remember correctly, his shot was one of his weaknesses in his pre-draft evaluations

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Kane and Matthews were late birthdays too. Played in the NHL in their 19YR old season, while Stutzle is in his 18YR old season as an early birthday.

He'd be the youngest player to do it since 1990.

Crosby?

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

And if I remember correctly, his shot was one of his weaknesses in his pre-draft evaluations

It clearly was, they did not get it wrong.

It is more a testament of Stutzle working like hell on his shot since then than it is of a poor evaluation. It literally went from a weakness to a strength. You could even hear commentators at Worlds saying "where did this shot come from?"

 

[h2]

It clearly was, they did not get it wrong.

It is more a testament of Stutzle working like hell on his shot since then than it is of a poor evaluation. It literally went from a weakness to a strength. You could even hear commentators at Worlds saying "where did this shot come from?"

There was still a few Sens fans saying his shot was a weakness at the WJC in December which I thought was very odd.

Like this:

The only clear weakness in his game seems to be his shot.

 

[thesensguy]

Superstar in the making. Would not be surprised to see him have a PPG season as early as next year. If he moves to centre, him and Batherson could be a hell of first line as early as 2021.

 

[jhutter]

Superstar in the making. Would not be surprised to see him have a PPG season as early as next year. If he moves to centre, him and Batherson could be a hell of first line as early as 2021.

The team is going to need to vastly improve, or score a ton more goals for him to hit PPG. He certainly has the ability, but he won't fully blossom without some support.

 

[jhutter]

It clearly was, they did not get it wrong.

It is more a testament of Stutzle working like hell on his shot since then than it is of a poor evaluation. It literally went from a weakness to a strength. You could even hear commentators at Worlds saying "where did this shot come from?"

These evaluations were coming in quite late, and as recent as the WJC. I'm sure he worked hard to improve his shot, but I think there was a little bit of misevaluation at play as well.

 

[h2]

These evaluations were coming in quite late, and as recent as the WJC. I'm sure he worked hard to improve his shot, but I think there was a little bit of misevaluation at play as well.

Misevaluation was definitely at play.

I remember watching Stutzle fly down the wing at the WJC (similar to the TOR goal last night) and firing an absolute laser that the goalie didn't even react to and it rang right off the crossbar. I was amazed by that shot and still saw criticisms on his shooting ability right after (mentioned earlier on this page). I was completely dumbfounded.

 

[thesensguy]

The team is going to need to vastly improve, or score a ton more goals for him to hit PPG. He certainly has the ability, but he won't fully blossom without some support.

For sure, improved powerplay from Norris, Batherson and Tkatchuk improving should provide a boost. Brannstrom, Zub and maybe JBD will also hopefully provide more support in getting the puck up the ice. Stuezle has an ability to make offense all by himself, has been on fire recently and his offensive skill is clearly an echelon higher than any young forward we have had in a long long time (probably since Spezza, obviously Stone was also elite but he created offence by just being a near flawless player in all zones and not sheer skill).

 

[Korpse]

Not really sure where the narrative of his shot being bad came from, I suspect it was his low goal totals.

Here is what HockeyProspect.com said about his shot in their draft guide.

"The final area to breakdown regarding Stützle skill-set is his release. He’s not an instinctive shooter and you could make an argument that he underutilizes his release, which is a contributing factor to his lower goal scoring output this season relative to his assist totals. That said, don’t mistake his low scoring total for a prospect who doesn’t have the ability to shoot the puck. Stützle has the mechanics necessary to be an impact scorer at the NHL-level. The most notable aspects of his release point are in regards to his footwork and his coordination within his shot. The footwork allows him to generate additional velocity by gaining inside positioning on his release point, as well as masking the specific point of the release. "

 

[aragorn]

I don't see Stutzle playing centre in the NHL just yet, he's still mostly a perimeter player & most goals in the NHL are scored from Tkachuk's office in front of the net. A centre ice man has to control the centre of the ice & Stutzle is too much all over the place to do that. However, given the number of big centre ice men in this division I would like to see Paul centre Stutzle & Batherson to see what that line could do.

Tkachuk - Norris - C. Brown
Stutzle - Paul - Batherson
Formenton - White - Dadonov

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Not really sure where the narrative of his shot being bad came from, I suspect it was his low goal totals.

Here is what HockeyProspect.com said about his shot in their draft guide.

"The final area to breakdown regarding Stützle skill-set is his release. He’s not an instinctive shooter and you could make an argument that he underutilizes his release, which is a contributing factor to his lower goal scoring output this season relative to his assist totals. That said, don’t mistake his low scoring total for a prospect who doesn’t have the ability to shoot the puck. Stützle has the mechanics necessary to be an impact scorer at the NHL-level. The most notable aspects of his release point are in regards to his footwork and his coordination within his shot. The footwork allows him to generate additional velocity by gaining inside positioning on his release point, as well as masking the specific point of the release. "

Probably people who ranked him 8th

 

[dumbdick]

Tim is going to be 1OA in the redraft by the end of the season.

 

[Agent Zub]

you guys realize players can improve? His shot was a weakness last year relative to his all-round elite skillset. He worked on it, and it's gonna get even better.

 

[jhutter]

you guys realize players can improve? His shot was a weakness last year relative to his all-round elite skillset. He worked on it, and it's gonna get even better.

Of course, but the transition from a weakness to a strength normally doesn't occur from practicing it for a couple of months. I think what most people are trying to say is that while he likely did improve his shot, the evaluations that described his shot as being a weakness were inaccurate.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Probably people who ranked him 8th

Lmao, I still can't believe that was a thing. What a bunch of morons.

 

[cudi]

Lmao, I still can't believe that was a thing. What a bunch of morons.

Must have missed this lol. Who ranked him 8th!?

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I remember after the draft one of the advance stats gurus, Bryon Bader, said we should have drafted Perfetti or Rossi instead of Stutzle, lol

 

[jhutter]

Ian Moran had him at like 13 or 14, lol. There are always going to be those out there rankings, and not all scouts are created equal.

 

[Oberyn Martell]

Must have missed this lol. Who ranked him 8th!?

Eliteprospects ranked him 8th

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Eliteprospects ranked him 8th

tbf I think that was their rank around the beginning of that season and they never updated it. Most people had Stutzle as merely a top 10-15 pick until he raised his stock bigtime throughout the season.

 

[GCK]

Spezza was pretty damn talented...

Arguably so was Daigle though he lacked motivation.

Spezza didn’t have the speed but had great hands. Yashin didn’t have speed but had even better hands than Spezza. Karlsson had speed, agility, great IQ and high compete but not the greatest hands. Jimmy has everything Karlsson had with insane hands.

 

[Royal Canuck]

Superstar in the making. Would not be surprised to see him have a PPG season as early as next year. If he moves to centre, him and Batherson could be a hell of first line as early as 2021.

Just a question, why hasn't he been given a shot at center yet?

Also, I noticed in the first few games of the season that they had him on the 2nd PP unit, have they moved him up yet?

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Ian Moran had him at like 13 or 14, lol. There are always going to be those out there rankings, and not all scouts are created equal.

Ian Moron