OT: Thread about Nothing Part 195: Baby it's cold outside.

[GhostofKenKlee]

Which is why people and businesses are fleeing New Jersey and moving down there. Their economy is booming while New Jersey's economy is dooming.

Seriously, I feel like everyone I know has moved to North Carolina, South Carolina, or Virginia (honorable mention to eastern PA).

It reminds of the days of flight of Anglos from Quebec to Florida, Toronto and Los Angeles during the 90's separatist referendum.

If you have cash in hand and salary is definitely NOT the same.

They are booming in the sense they are taking advantage of fleeing capital. You have to move into a lateral situation to feel the difference. Ask natives what they think of the influx since the 70's, what we think of being cheap and what not.

Don't think the schools (public) are anything special from what I gather unless you move into the premier areas in the Raleigh/Charlotte areas. Even if you do, you are still spending top dollar for a house. Obvious difference is the property tax.

But nothing beats those who benefit from the pension system leaving Jersey to greener pastures all the while lamenting the high cost of living in Jersey.

The problem with Jersey's economy is only RI is worse with taxes unless you are a mega corporation and the state breaks out knee pads and the checkbook. Look at what they did for Suburu, Amazon and Burlington Coat and others.

 

[JRZ DVLS]

Wow... Yeah, that's crazy stuff. I mean, you almost have to know what your stealing, and have a buyer lined up or whatever. What do you do with a priceless artifact like that? You can't show it off, sell it, anything.

Neil Caffery would know how to Fence it!!!!!

 

[Richer's Ghost]

It belongs in a museum.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

Your friends dont know much about what's going on in the state.

Christie has a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate, and you cant lower taxes with Democrats in power.

The only useful thing Christie does is clogging up a few years when there wont be a typical monopoly of Democrat power in the state. Once Christie leaves, a Democrat will almost surely win, and taxes in this state will go ever-higher again. Meh.....doesn't really matter anymore, New Jersey is in an economic death spiral from which there is no return.

Christie is channeling his inner Reagan and cutting deals with Jersey Boll Weavils who have their hands out all in the name of BiParistanship. Christie is unique a hybrid of Reagan and Clinton in which he trinangulates as well as makes an enemies list.

Hillary's minions are really putting the shiv in him right now after the election. I believe he's got so many enemies on both sides of the aisles on the state and federal level. He's truly a threat, when was the last time a Republican got 30/35 percent of the AA vote as well as a nice size of the Hispanic vote?

 

[JRZ DVLS]

It reminds of the days of flight of Anglos from Quebec to Florida, Toronto and Los Angeles during the 90's separatist referendum.

If you have cash in hand and salary is definitely NOT the same.

They are booming in the sense they are taking advantage of fleeing capital. You have to move into a lateral situation to feel the difference. Ask natives what they think of the influx since the 70's, what we think of being cheap and what not.

Don't think the schools (public) are anything special from what I gather unless you move into the premier areas in the Raleigh/Charlotte areas. Even if you do, you are still spending top dollar for a house. Obvious difference is the property tax.

But nothing beats those who benefit from the pension system leaving Jersey to greener pastures all the while lamenting the high cost of living in Jersey.

The problem with Jersey's economy is only RI is worse with taxes unless you are a mega corporation and the state breaks out knee pads and the checkbook. Look at what they did for Suburu, Amazon and Burlington Coat and others.

Just put it this way, I am in process of buying a house on Lake Norman(30mins north of Charlotte---Nascar, Lowes Land) This house is about 1/4 mile from its community pool, and Deeded Boat slip on lake. Taxes------------$2,200. I would not be able to afford this house in NJ because of the taxes, even if you could findsomething like it. But even Milliion dollar home here are less than 5k in taxes. Granted I am not going to be on City Water or Sewer, but the cost of Septic and advantage of Community well out weighs and is way lower per year then being on city water/sewer.

We chose this area because the schools are some of the top ranked in the state, plus there are Charter schools that are really good, you just have to be in the lottery pool to get in.

Just amazing how the difference is. Especially coming from NJ and Illinois.

The salaries may be lower, but that is all in your Negotitations. I am making more here then i was in the Chicagoland.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

You buying a place near Guy Young?

 

[JRZ DVLS]

You buying a place near Guy Young?

Who?

 

[AfroThunder396]

New computer came today!

Had my old one from 2005-2014, which I'm now realizing is before Crosby was drafted

 

[Rhodes 81]

I know 4 inches of snow sounds like nothing to you all up north, but when the pathetically inept city administration does nothing to prepare the roads with what little equipment we have, and then everyone gets called into work even though they know there is going to be a storm that the roads and drivers aren't prepared for. The result? Kids stuck in schools over night. Babies being born in cars. After being in traffic for 9 hours, my mother finally had to spend the night at a restaurant that graciously stayed open all night (and paid its workers double and triple overtime). My sister was lucky enough to be able to abandon her car and walk the final three miles home.

This all could have been avoided if an incompetent administration, which has been proven as such overt and over, had bothered to salt a few major roads and give workers the day off .

Are Atlantans capable of driving well on ice? No, but put any driver on roads nobody took the time to prepare for snow and don't give them snow tires, 4 wheel drive, or anything and we'll see how well they do.

Also it was 15° a couple days ago, it'll be 70° next Monday. **** Georgia weather.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

I know 4 inches of snow sounds like nothing to you all up north, but when the pathetically inept city administration does nothing to prepare the roads with what little equipment we have, and then everyone gets called into work even though they know there is going to be a storm that the roads and drivers aren't prepared for. The result? Kids stuck in schools over night. Babies being born in cars. After being in traffic for 9 hours, my mother finally had to spend the night at a restaurant that graciously stayed open all night (and paid its workers double and triple overtime). My sister was lucky enough to be able to abandon her car and walk the final three miles home.

This all could have been avoided if an incompetent administration, which has been proven as such overt and over, had bothered to salt a few major roads and give workers the day off .

Are Atlantans capable of driving well on ice? No, but put any driver on roads nobody took the time to prepare for snow and don't give them snow tires, 4 wheel drive, or anything and we'll see how well they do.

Also it was 15° a couple days ago, it'll be 70° next Monday. **** Georgia weather.

I know you're ticked off at situation but how often does Atlanta get snow?

 

[glenwo2]

It belongs in a museum.

 

[Rhodes 81]

I know you're ticked off at situation but how often does Atlanta get snow?

Enough for it to actually matter?
~ every 3 years, but at least in the past salt was put down and the city actually took preparations. The complete lack of any preparation on the city's part was disgusting here

 

[Better Call Sal]

New computer came today!

Had my old one from 2005-2014, which I'm now realizing is before Crosby was drafted

That's impressive, how did it last nearly 10 years? I've been going through laptops at 2 years a clip.

 

[DatBoyJPP]

280 wasn't touched by truck last week when it snowed and still 2000 people made it to the Devils game that night. The drivers are at fault as much as the city, especially when people are abandoning their cars on the highway. The fact the Hawks still couldn't play tonight after that dusting is a joke.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

I can't blame the people of Atlanta, the drivers, etc... I mean we were raised in this mess. I can't imagine what it would be like to drive in an earthquake or under a tornado warning for example. Sand storms or wind storms or whatever other weather conditions don't bother me up here.

4 inches of snow wouldn't even mean an early dismissal for me as a kid. And we walked to school. But we put down salt, people shoveled, people owned shovels laugh, and bus drivers knew how to drive in it.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

Enough for it to actually matter?
~ every 3 years, but at least in the past salt was put down and the city actually took preparations. The complete lack of any preparation on the city's part was disgusting here

This seems appropriate now.

 

[Rhodes 81]

edit: rather than try to explain it myself, i'll let this article do the talking. http://www.businessinsider.com/why-all-altanta-is-stuck-in-traffic-2014-1

The workers in my schools cafeteria slept here over night because the city buses weren't running. It has snowed more than this before and it didn't shut the buses down. Yes people in the north are better at driving in snow, but as was said, it's not like this was a blizzard. This much snow should not have and in the past had not resulted in traffic that doesn't move for 8 hours. I know people that have lived in Minnesota and they couldn't drive on the roads last night. What do you want people to do what they're driving on ice in cars and tires not made for it?

 

[JRZ DVLS]

edit: rather than try to explain it myself, i'll let this article do the talking. http://www.businessinsider.com/why-all-altanta-is-stuck-in-traffic-2014-1

The workers in my schools cafeteria slept here over night because the city buses weren't running. It has snowed more than this before and it didn't shut the buses down. Yes people in the north are better at driving in snow, but as was said, it's not like this was a blizzard. This much snow should not have and in the past had not resulted in traffic that doesn't move for 8 hours. I know people that have lived in Minnesota and they couldn't drive on the roads last night. What do you want people to do what they're driving on ice in cars and tires not made for it?

In Charlotte, the schools were closed today, and some are already closed for tomorrow!!!! Not sure why tomorrow.....BUt the kids had two hour delays and days off because it was 10degrees outside.....I am still running outside at 10 degrees!!!

BTW, we only had 1.25" here....Yes 1.25" shut schools fro 2 days....

Granted I am from Vernon, but we had school all the time and had the Mountains that all the busses has to go up and down.
GUess i better get used to this type of thing....

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

There was an issue where we live where the snow fell too late and the schools didn't make the call and the towns were asleep at the wheel. The roads were ice and awful, it's as if some of these towns forgot how to plow and or prep for snow.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

Who?

It's an Eastbound and Down reference, he had a compound on Lake Norman and the show takes place in Charlotte.

 

[Rhodes 81]

In Charlotte, the schools were closed today, and some are already closed for tomorrow!!!! Not sure why tomorrow.....BUt the kids had two hour delays and days off because it was 10degrees outside.....I am still running outside at 10 degrees!!!

BTW, we only had 1.25" here....Yes 1.25" shut schools fro 2 days....

Granted I am from Vernon, but we had school all the time and had the Mountains that all the busses has to go up and down.
GUess i better get used to this type of thing....

the 10 degrees thing may just be because the school buses aren't equipped to run in that cold of weather, but that is indeed weird.

as for closing schools in advance, remember that in the south it's cold enough to make snow, then gets hot enough to melt the snow, but then gets cold enough again to refreeze the snow as ice, all in a couple hours. the schools may be worried about that happening overnight. charlotte should be big enough to have salt trucks to run and prevent such a thing though.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Wow... Yeah, that's crazy stuff. I mean, you almost have to know what your stealing, and have a buyer lined up or whatever. What do you do with a priceless artifact like that? You can't show it off, sell it, anything.

You'd think that's likely exactly what happened in a situation like this, uber-rich buyer lined up for the crime. Although, would a pro thief use a stun gun? Hopefully it turns up someday.

I will note, however, that out of all the multi-million dollar items in the world, I'd say Strads are the LEAST protected. They're usually toted around by someone 20 to 45 years old who has done little else but play violin their entire life, with absolutely no security, and a highly predictable schedule (concerts, school, etc...) that lets a would-be thief often know exactly where they will be. If it werent for the fact Strads are nearly impossible to sell (legally), they'd probably get stolen far more often.

I am in process of buying a house on Lake Norman(30mins north of Charlotte---Nascar, Lowes Land) This house is about 1/4 mile from its community pool, and Deeded Boat slip on lake. Taxes------------$2,200. I would not be able to afford this house in NJ because of the taxes

A friend of mine sold his rather modest house in New Jersey, moved to a HUGE house outside Charlotte, put $100,000 in his pocket via that transaction, and only pays $800/year now versus $8000/year in taxes. If people generally understood the time value component of money, NJ would be in even worse shape than it currently is, because even more people would flee.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I know 4 inches of snow sounds like nothing to you all up north, but when the pathetically inept city administration does nothing to prepare the roads ........Are Atlantans capable of driving well on ice? No, but put any driver on roads nobody took the time to prepare for snow and don't give them snow tires, 4 wheel drive, or anything and we'll see how well they do.

If they're northerners? Better.

I'm sorry, but I just cant believe the images of the effects I'm seeing from 2" to 4" of snow. Yes, I have 4x4 and aggressive ATT, but even if I didnt I wouldnt be paralyzed to drive in 3" of snow. This is all truly mind-boggling to me.

 

[BenedictGomez]

And speaking of snow, as of this evening all 3 of the major predictive weather models (European, American, Canadian) show a BIG snowstorm for the February 4th/5th timeframe.


MIGHT be a problem with temperatures being too high for much of NJ (i.e. rain) but time will tell. The important thing is there's unanimous model agreement that 7 days from now someone in the northeast should see a pretty nice snowstorm.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I'm tired of snow, **** this ****, bring me spring.

And Rhodes, that blows, as BCM coordinator with a **** ton of DR background, I can't imagine how a city/county can **** something so simple up. It's not like they don't have direct access to any authorities on the weather in Atlanta right? And isn't one of the bigger counties down there just coming out of bankruptcy/still in it? Can they even afford salt, sand or trucks?