Thoughts about Jankowski?

[tfong]

We could be seeing a Bergeron effect with Janko though. Bergeron is a 55-60 point forward playing 2C for the B's. If he played for a coach like Hartley, I'd wager Patrice would score close to 80. He's actually an unbelievably skilled player and Janko seems to have similar natural ability. If his focus is defence, it explains a lot.

I wouldn't expect that much.

Bergeron came in as an 18 year old and already was pretty good. I wouldn't hold Janko to that same standard.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I wouldn't expect that much.

Bergeron came in as an 18 year old and already was pretty good. I wouldn't hold Janko to that same standard.

In college though I think the comparison is valid given the situation. In the NHL, Bergeron is a legit star and I don't necessarily have those expectations for Janko.

 

[Sparky93]

A bigger, more durable version of Backlund with a better face off percentage sounds pretty good too! A big, 3C that can defend and put up 40 points would be amazing.

 

[Lunatik]

A bigger, more durable version of Backlund with a better face off percentage sounds pretty good too! A big, 3C that can defend and put up 40 points would be amazing.

Yep and we don't see people calling Backlund a bust.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Yep and we don't see people calling Backlund a bust.

Nor would they call Jankowski a bust if he became that good.

 

[Lunatik]

Nor would they call Jankowski a bust if he became that good.

Except people already are, it was a subtle hint to certain posters that labelling him a bust already and crying about the pick is stupid at this point in time.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Early on you could say Backlund was a bust. Until the 2013-2014 season, he changed people's minds. Now he is an excellent 3rd line C.

 

[Anglesmith]

Early on you could say Backlund was a bust. Until the 2013-2014 season, he changed people's minds. Now he is an excellent 3rd line C.

Which is why if you called him a bust at any point, you were 100% wrong.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Which is why if you called him a bust at any point, you were 100% wrong.

I agree with you, it's just looked like it because he wasn't producing as people thought he would. As long as he becomes a consistent NHL player it shouldn't matter.

It takes longer for some players to find their groove.

 

[Deen]

People are quick to call him a bust not because of where he is at progression wise, but where he was picked in the first round with the players that were still left on the board.

 

[Sparky93]

Let's not forget the jury is still out, one promising prospect camp does guarantee a successful NHL career. None of us know what was going on behind the scenes with the organization, at the time but it still seems like they were position targeting. Given the state of the franchise, at the time, BPA still seems like a solid move. Janko may become a great centre, but it's still hard not imagine our defense, right now, with Maatta or Ceci. Time will tell if the gamble pays off but there's still no denying it was a huge risk.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

it's still hard not imagine our defense, right now, with Maatta or Ceci. Time will tell if the gamble pays off but there's still no denying it was a huge risk.

Maybe having Maatta/Ceci means we never bring in Russell and don't make the playoffs last year because Maatta can't bring that leadership and poise and health.

Maybe having Maatta means we never give Brodie a chance on the top pairing, he stays paired with Smid, underperforms, and gets traded for pennies on the dolllar.

Maybe having Maatta takes away Brad Treliving's urgency to bring in another possession-driving Dman, and we don't go after Dougie Hamilton.

Maybe Maatta is still toiling away in Stockton along with the other Dmen we drafted in 2012 and hasn't even made his NHL debut yet like with Culkin.

Maybe Maatta being there pushing in Stockton takes away Brad Treliving's urgency to trade up for Oliver Kylington.

It's fair to fixate on hypotheticals if you're drafting in the top 5 or so. We were drafting 14th, and ultimately 21st/42nd. Every player in that range has question marks and unpredictable development curves. And just as David Pastrnak wasn't necessarily a better draft pick than Dylan Larkin, Travis Sanheim, or Alex Tuch, Olli Maatta winning the 50 meter sprint doesn't mean he's already won the marathon.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Maybe having Maatta/Ceci means we never bring in Russell and don't make the playoffs last year because Maatta can't bring that leadership and poise and health.

Maybe having Maatta means we never give Brodie a chance on the top pairing, he stays paired with Smid, underperforms, and gets traded for pennies on the dolllar.

Maybe having Maatta takes away Brad Treliving's urgency to bring in another possession-driving Dman, and we don't go after Dougie Hamilton.

Maybe Maatta is still toiling away in Stockton along with the other Dmen we drafted in 2012 and hasn't even made his NHL debut yet like with Culkin.

Maybe Maatta being there pushing in Stockton takes away Brad Treliving's urgency to trade up for Oliver Kylington.

It's fair to fixate on hypotheticals if you're drafting in the top 5 or so. We were drafting 14th, and ultimately 21st/42nd. Every player in that range has question marks and unpredictable development curves. And just as David Pastrnak wasn't necessarily a better draft pick than Dylan Larkin, Travis Sanheim, or Alex Tuch, Olli Maatta winning the 50 meter sprint doesn't mean he's already won the marathon.

Those are two different events.

If you meant they were a single event, then who would sprint right off the bat in a marathon?

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Those are two different events.

If you meant they were a single event, then who would sprint right off the bat in a marathon?

That's my point. The winner of the marathon hasn't been determined yet -what matters is who has the better career for the team that drafted him, not who makes it to the NHL first and has some early success.

 

[tfong]

That's my point. The winner of the marathon hasn't been determined yet -what matters is who has the better career for the team that drafted him, not who makes it to the NHL first and has some early success.

I hate hockey players that treat it like marathons. They are lazy and don't put effort in, instead tending to "save energy".

Well hockey is a burst sport so by gods, you better be sprinting!

 

[Mobiandi]

Not sure if this has been posted already in another thread.



Glad to see they're vocal about how much they value him

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Jankowski is hyped?

 

[Body Checker]

Jankowski between Smith & Klimchuk is our future Mcdavid shutdown line

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I really think 100TG is right in that Bennett will likely play wing for us, providing that Janko pans out. He's got everything you could ask for in a center and would be so deadly setting Bennett up, imagine Klimmer playing RW with those 2.

Of course he's not there yet, and may never be, but I really think his bust factor is quite low.

 

[King In The North]

Really see Bennett as a Duchene clone, Duche also played on the wing for a while when Stastny and ROR were the centers

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Really see Bennett as a Duchene clone, Duche also played on the wing for a while when Stastny and ROR were the centers

I like the Duchene comparison, but he definitely plays with more of an edge and physical. His overall skill and speed though is bang on.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

I love how nobody's considered the possibility that Monahan someday becomes a winger, the Marian Hossa or Patrick Sharp to Bennett's Toews.

There're so many ways to skin this center logjam cat. Great problem to have.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

I love how nobody's considered the possibility that Monahan someday becomes a winger, the Marian Hossa to Bennett's Toews.

Why would we consider that? If anything, the one who could be a winger is Bennett.

 

[King In The North]

I love how nobody's considered the possibility that Monahan someday becomes a winger, the Marian Hossa or Patrick Sharp to Bennett's Toews.

There're so many ways to skin this center logjam cat. Great problem to have.

Monahan has already proved himself to be a future Toews/Bergeron, I think if anyone sticks at C for sure it's him. Bennett is just entering the NHL so there is still some room to develop him as a LW/C, like I mentioned before similar to Matt Duchene

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Why would we consider that?

Because we're talking about two twenty year-olds and a just-turned 19 year old here, all of whom are centers and all of whom look best when playing center. But it's a foregone conclusion that Monahan will be a 1C because he spent half a year playing as one. Don't forget, even Eric Staal plays wing despite being an elite natural center.

Monahan has already proved himself to be a future Toews/Bergeron

He has done nothing of the sort. You can't "prove" yourself to be something in the future and both those guys were much better at things like faceoffs and defense at the same age.