THN's Top Prospects list - Per Leauge

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  1. MrMastodonFarm*

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    Top 10 Major Junior prospects
    Dion Phaneuf, Cgy, D: 5 stars
    Jeff Carter, Phi, C: 4 stars
    Braydon Coburn, Atl, D: 4 stars
    Ryan Getzlaf, Ana, C: 3 stars
    Anthony Stewart, Fla, RW: 3 stars
    Corey Perry, Ana, RW: 3 stars
    Eric Fehr, Wsh, RW: 3 stars
    Brent Seabrooke, Chi, D: 3 stars
    Cam Barker, Chi, D: 3 stars
    Patrick O'Sullivan, Min, C: 3 stars

    Top 10 NCAA prospects
    Al Montoya, NYR, G: 5 stars
    Patrick Eaves, Ott, RW: 4 stars
    Drew Stafford, Buf, RW: 4 stars
    Blake Wheeler, Phx, RW: 4 stars
    Mark Stuart, Bos, D: 3 stars
    Jim Slater, Atl, C: 3 stars
    Travis Zajac, NJ, C: 3 stars
    Hugh Jessiman, NYR, RW: 3 stars
    Eric Nystrom, Cgy, LW: 3 stars
    Ktis Chucko, Cgy, LW: 3 stars

    Top 10 AHL prospects
    Kari Lehtonen, Atl, G: 5 stars
    Ryan Suter, Nsh, D: 5 stars
    Ryan Miller, Buf, G: 4 stars
    Zach Parise, NJ, C: 4 stars
    Thomas Vanek, Buf, LW: 4 stars
    Hannu Toivonen, Bos, G: 4 stars
    Ryan Kesler, Van, C: 4 stars
    Carlo Colaiacovo, Tor, D: 4 stars
    Niklas Kronwall, Det, D: 4 stars
    Mikko Koivu, Min, C: 4 stars

    Top 10 European prospects
    Alexander Ovechkin, Wsh, LW: 5 stars
    Evgeni Malkin, Pit, C: 5 stars
    Igor Grigorenko, Det, RW: 4 stars
    Lauri Tukonen, LA, RW: 4 stars
    Lukas Kaspar, Ott, RW: 4 stars
    Henrik Lundqvist, NYR, G: 3 stars
    Alexander Steen, Tor, C: 3 stars
    Sean Bergenheim, NYI, LW: 3 stars
    Rostislav Olesz, Fla, C: 3 stars
    Alexei Kaigorodov, Ott, C: 3 stars

    Order goes from 1-10 of course. Pretty interesting lists.
     
  2. Douggy

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    I think putting Montoya on the same level as Lehtonen is a stretch.
     
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    Carter/Parise in the 5 star range. Olesz should also be a 4, Grigorenko a 3, Kesler and Koivu a 3, Nystrom not there.
     
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    Ok, so should someone give a wake up call to everyone in the prospect business and tell them Grigorenko has 0 (zero) points this year, and that even if he once had the potential to be a superstar, he's pretty much done since the accident? I don't know, while I didn't see him play, I'm growing tired of seeing him on top of every list without any justification.

    EDIT: Sorry, Grigorenko scored his first goal (and only point) of this season yesterday.
     
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    Olesz should be 4 stars and ahead of Bergenheim, Grigorenko, Kaspar, prolly Steen, and Tukonen.

    Alexander Ovechkin, Wsh, LW: 5 stars
    Evgeni Malkin, Pit, C: 5 stars
    Rostislav Olesz, Fla, C: 4 stars
    Lauri Tukonen, LA, RW: 3.5 stars
    Lukas Kaspar, Ott, RW: 4 stars
    Henrik Lundqvist, NYR, G: 3 stars
    Alexei Kaigorodov, Ott, C: 3.5 stars
    Alexander Steen, Tor, C: 3 stars
    Sean Bergenheim, NYI, LW: 3 stars
    Igor Grigorenko, Det, RW: 3 stars

    Olesz has heated up in the last month and has been one of Sparta's best players as the youngest player on the roster on the best team in the leauge.
     
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    Chaos And the winner is...

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    And the overratedness continues for Igor "0 points this year" Grigorenko
     
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    Agree with you on Carter/Parise, disagree on Olesz, agree on Grigorenko, agree on Kesler and disagree on Koivu.

    To me, the surprise was seeing Wheeler and Stafford with 4 stars. Wheeler I don't know much about so I am intrigued. I don't feel Stafford deserves it, however.

    I'm not surprised by Suter's 5 stars but God, this guy is the most overrated defenseman since Komisarek. The misguided Suter lovefest continues...
     
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    Kaspar and Wheeler are a 4 but Getzlaf, Stewart, Fehr, O'sullivan and Barker are 3's?


    This list is garbage....
     
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    Eaves, Stafford, and Wheeler ahead of O'Sullivan, Seabrooke, Barker, Fehr, Perry, and Stewart? Montoya a 5?

    Awful list.
     
  10. leafaholix*

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    Where the **** is Jan Steber?
     
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    Amen
     
  12. X-SHARKIE

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    This list sucks
     
  13. leafaholix*

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    I agree.

    Where the **** is Kai Hospelt?
     
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    Chaos And the winner is...

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    Unless I missed the sarcasm(entirely possible), there are far more deserving major junior guys who should be there over a guy who has 15 points in the QMJHL, IMO.
     
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    You are wrong.

    Jan Steber = God.
     
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    Question to those who have received their hockey news already...I for one have not.

    Do they do team by team breakdown?

    And do scouts have any say in these lists?

    I can't justify Lukas Kaspar being ahead of Olesz and Michalek my self, or Montoya a 5! Or Parise below Suter with a 4.

    I'm confused.
     
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    Isn't Kaspar SJ property?
     
  18. leafaholix*

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    Yeah, plays in Ottawa... that's the mistake.
     
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    Carter should be higher :D
     
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    Which Hockey News is this in? Not the December 21st edition, right?
     
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    from what Ive seen of Coburn this year he should be a 3 or even a 2
     
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    I'm very surprised that Mike Richards isn't on that list. I would have thought he'd have been rated over at least a few of those guys. As for Carter, I don't think he's a five star guy, but maybe a 4.5 guy. He's obviously better than any of the other 4 star guys, imo, but not as highly touted as the 5 star superstar prospects.
     
  23. leafaholix*

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    I agree, the bit I've seen from him is far from impressive.

    May take some heat for it, but I would be shocked if he ever cracked the top 4 in the NHL for an extended period of time.
     
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    Its the Dec. 28th edition I believe.
     
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    Anthony Stewart, Fla, RW: 3 stars
    Corey Perry, Ana, RW: 3 stars
    Eric Fehr, Wsh, RW: 3 stars
    Brent Seabrooke, Chi, D: 3 stars
    Cam Barker, Chi, D: 3 stars
    Patrick O'Sullivan, Min, C: 3 stars


    All ahead of Richards?
     
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