Therrien - Edition Part II

[MXD]

Yeah.. except Tampa is losing because they have a boatload of injured important players and also because Stamkos not wanting to be there is a huge distraction.

... eh... wait, what?!?!?!

 

[Math930]

... eh... wait, what?!?!?!

They are 6-4 in the last 10.

Montreal is 2-7-1.

Stamkos not wanting to be there anymore is like if Price was "liking" rumors sending him to Vancouver. MTL fans would go nuts, and it would also create a distraction.

 

[MXD]

They are 6-4 in the last 10.

Montreal is 2-7-1.

Stamkos not wanting to be there anymore is like if Price was "liking" rumors sending him to Vancouver. MTL fans would go nuts, and it would also create a distraction.

I suppose Montreal doesn't have important injured players, since you apparently disregarded this aspect of your post.

 

[Kriss E]

Yeah.. except Tampa is losing because they have a boatload of injured important players and also because Stamkos not wanting to be there is a huge distraction.

Tampa have had to deal with injuries to Palat and Johnson, true, but they weren't playing particularly well with them in the line up anyways. Those guys combine for 6 goals in 41gp. Tampa has struggled all season.
Injuries didn't help but they were already having problems.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

At the beginning of the season, if you had asked everyone, the teams that were supposed to be powerhouses in the east :

NYR
Mtl
TB

And Cooper/Vigneault were so much better than MT.

Both have had nowhere near the amount of missed games by players as important as Gallagher, Price. But we're still ahead of those teams.

Thing is, we have had some pretty good games out of all of our losses. What we're seeing right now is the other end of spectrum of luck and bad timing. When we play well, our goalies play like crap and the other goalie plays out of his mind. The few times our goalies have played well, we didn't show up. We've had some players with bad luck, some others whose heads are anywhere but in the game. Just terrible timing and bad luck. The Dallas game was the apex of everything going wrong while facing the best offense in the league. The end result was not pretty with guys saving their energy for another fight.

But here on HF habs, everyone is blaming MT. The magical solution. Some posters who haven't posted in months are coming back from retirement to bash MT. It's typical, it's easy. We'll see in the coming road trip if we pull together or crumble. Either way, something has got to give. A trade, a change of coach, or just Subban/Patch/Plek deciding that they have some pride. Whichever...

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

At the beginning of the season, if you had asked everyone, the teams that were supposed to be powerhouses in the east :

NYR
Mtl
TB

And Cooper/Vigneault were so much better than MT.

Vigneault is better, always has been and always will be. I'd love to have him back, we re-hired the wrong guy.

As for Cooper... I'd be pretty pissed off if I were a Tampa fan. He's misused Stamkos to the point of pissing him off. Now they look like they might lose him for nothing. Cooper may be a good coach otherwise but if you alienate a star, it mitigates any good you might do.

 

[ottawa]

Posted this in the thread on the mainboards, but this is basically MT/MB and company:

 

[Richiebottles]

He better be on the hot seat if we lose tonight.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Would Therrien survive a winless or 1-7 trip?

 

[walsy37]

#MTwatch -

The only good thing about the injuries to Price and Gally is that if the team loses 10 in a row, MB will really be forced into firing our idiot coach.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

#MTwatch -

The only good thing about the injuries to Price and Gally is that if the team loses 10 in a row, MB will really be forced into firing our idiot coach.

How many do we have to lose before MB fires himself?

 

[CanadienShark]

#FireTherrien


I've had a ****** day, so that's contributing, but I'm sick of him. He's not going to change. He is what he is. He can do some good and has had a probably net positive impact on our team as far as growth, but he's holding the Habs back now. So I'm happy with how our guys like Pacioretty, Subban, Price and Gallagher have developed under him, but it's time for a new voice. Then guys like Galchenyuk will get even better. We need a new coach badly.

 

[walsy37]

#FireTherrien


I've had a ****** day, so that's contributing, but I'm sick of him. He's not going to change. He is what he is. He can do some good and has had a probably net positive impact on our team as far as growth, but he's holding the Habs back now. So I'm happy with how our guys like Pacioretty, Subban, Price and Gallagher have developed under him, but it's time for a new voice. Then guys like Galchenyuk will get even better. We need a new coach badly.

And that's the book on MT (see Pittsburgh).

 

[CanadienShark]

And that's the book on MT (see Pittsburgh).

Exactly. That's not surprising. He's the kind of guy that fits an Edmonton type of team, but he has a short shelf life. He'll help them on the road to becoming a great team, but can't "finish the job" so to speak. Of course though, with regards to Edmonton, they have one of the best coaches in the league now. I'm speaking about Edmonton of past years.

 

[ottawa]

Would Therrien survive a winless or 1-7 trip?

Yes, these losses will be pinned on injuries, guaranteed. MT will get away scot-free of any criticism.

 

[Rapala]

Exactly. That's not surprising. He's the kind of guy that fits an Edmonton type of team, but he has a short shelf life. He'll help them on the road to becoming a great team, but can't "finish the job" so to speak. Of course though, with regards to Edmonton, they have one of the best coaches in the league now. I'm speaking about Edmonton of past years.

Edmonton are showing signs of life with their current coach and woudn't touch MT with a ten foot pole.

 

[CanadienShark]

Edmonton are showing signs of life with their current coach and woudn't touch MT with a ten foot pole.

Isn't that simply rephrasing what I said?

They have one of the best coaches in the league right now. I'm saying MT would have fit their team if they hadn't already signed a better coach.

 

[ottawa]

Isn't that simply rephrasing what I said?

They have one of the best coaches in the league right now. I'm saying MT would have fit their team if they hadn't already signed a better coach.

Edmonton is doing great with their current coach, they wouldn't hire Therrien in place of McLellan...though I wish we had.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Edmonton is doing great with their current coach, they wouldn't hire MT in place of McLellan

If Michel Therrien was available, the Oilers wouldn't bring him in over McLellan. Edmonton is playing well with their new coach.

 

[ottawa]

What did I say

You should have quoted CanadienShark instead lol

 

[JayKing]

Time to get the boot. Injuries aren't an excuse

 

[CanadienShark]

Edmonton is doing great with their current coach, they wouldn't hire Therrien in place of McLellan...though I wish we had.

What...? That's what I literally just reiterated!!!

McLellan >>>>>>>> Therrien

I'm saying that if TMac wasn't available and Therrien was, Therrien would have been an alright choice as a stopgap coach to develop the team. I'm just giving Edmonton (pre-McLellan) as an example.

 

[walsy37]

What...? That's what I literally just reiterated!!!

McLellan >>>>>>>> Therrien

I'm saying that if TMac wasn't available and Therrien was, Therrien would have been an alright choice as a stopgap coach to develop the team. I'm just giving Edmonton (pre-McLellan) as an example.

Don't worry, I understood.

 

[OnTheRun]

It's amazing how elite goaltending can insulate idiotic decisions.

All the suspicious move MT is pulling out of his ass have a lot less of an impact on the team when he have Price standing on his head for ~65 games a year.

 

[CanadienShark]

Don't worry, I understood.

Glad you understood.

Not trying to sound rude, but was I even directing that comment at you though? If so, I don't think I meant to.

If you're commenting offhandedly, then we agree.