danielpalfredsson
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You live in a fantasy land if you think it's as easy as just going out and getting a defender who can out perform Phaneuf.
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You live in a fantasy land if you think it's as easy as just going out and getting a defender who can out perform Phaneuf.
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Took me like 45 seconds. Was just trying to imply as a Leafs fan that bringing the old crew back (Phaneuf) was a "great" idea that would "totally" improve the team. Value might be way off as I wasn't tryimg to be serious.You put a lot of thought into this?
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And we likely miss the playoffs instead of 9 home dates and a great deep 3 round run.
The trade already has made the Sens many millions of actual $$$. More than Phaneuf's contract.
The Sens have already got huge benefits from the trade.
So assuming he wasn't traded, looks like Marc Methot will be a Golden Knight, or do the Sens go 4-4?
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If Sens go 4 4 it means Brassard is gone. Basically traded Zibanejad and a 2nd for nothing. Not happening.
Sens will do 7 -3
Sens will do 7 -3
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Hopefully 4-4
I think it's easier and cheaper to replace bottom 6 forwards over top 4 d-man.
Phaneuf
Karlsson
Ceci
Methot
Turris
Hoffman
Stone
Brassard.
Huge fan of both but I hope he values Pageau more. I would much rather we go 7/3.
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4-4 makes the most sense, but I guess I am just really high on Pageau. If we could make a minor side deal to lose Smith instead of Pageau, I could live with it.
I wouldn't want to lose Smith either, but Methot is more valuable than Smith, and let's be real Smith or Pageau are who they are either taking or themselves or flipping.
If we go 7-3-1 without trading Phaneuf or Methot, I'd hope that would mean that the market was so crappy for both of them, that it will lower the odds of Vegas selecting Methot to flip, and maybe open up an opportunity for us to make a cheaper side deal to keep Methot.
It's looking more and more like we'll lose Methot for nothing (well technically to shield our second best exposed player...but there's a huge drop off in value between Methot and Claesson or Wideman). A deal could have still been made prior to the deadline and has just not been announced yet.
Edit: There's been some claims by other posters that RFAs rights cannot be taken by Vegas, and they have to AGREE to sign during the signing period or else Vegas cannot select them. This doesn't make sense to me, but if this is the case, 4-4 is a no brainer because there's a good chance Pageau won't sign with Vegas, he clearly wants to stay in Ottawa. Losing Smith would suck, but Methot is more important. If this is in fact the case, 4-4 should be an EASY choice.
I wouldn't want to lose Smith either, but Methot is more valuable than Smith, and let's be real Smith or Pageau are who they are either taking or themselves or flipping.
If we go 7-3-1 without trading Phaneuf or Methot, I'd hope that would mean that the market was so crappy for both of them, that it will lower the odds of Vegas selecting Methot to flip, and maybe open up an opportunity for us to make a cheaper side deal to keep Methot.
It's looking more and more like we'll lose Methot for nothing (well technically to shield our second best exposed player...but there's a huge drop off in value between Methot and Claesson or Wideman). A deal could have still been made prior to the deadline and has just not been announced yet.
Edit: There's been some claims by other posters that RFAs rights cannot be taken by Vegas, and they have to AGREE to sign during the signing period or else Vegas cannot select them. This doesn't make sense to me, but if this is the case, 4-4 is a no brainer because there's a good chance Pageau won't sign with Vegas, he clearly wants to stay in Ottawa. Losing Smith would suck, but Methot is more important. If this is in fact the case, 4-4 should be an EASY choice.
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Pageau is their best defensive forward at 23 and keeps on getting better. A centre that can play all four lines and be effective in that role.
Methot is their best shutdown defenceman, plays on the first pair. Not much wrt offence.
Phaneuf is a one of the better number 3 defencemen with good offensive traits from the point.
I wanna keep both Pageau and Methot, in that order. But every ticking minute it appears Ottawa will lose one of Pageau or Methot, with the latter being more likely as I am sure management recognizes Pageau has more value. Didn't hear any whispers that Ottawa is trying to trade a forward, by all accounts it is one of Phaneuf or Methot they are trying to get value for.
Methot is their best shutdown defenceman, plays on the first pair. Not much wrt offence.
Phaneuf is a one of the better number 3 defencemen with good offensive traits from the point.
I wanna keep both Pageau and Methot, in that order. But every ticking minute it appears Ottawa will lose one of Pageau or Methot, with the latter being more likely as I am sure management recognizes Pageau has more value. Didn't hear any whispers that Ottawa is trying to trade a forward, by all accounts it is one of Phaneuf or Methot they are trying to get value for.
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There's no guarantee Vegas would take Pageau over Smith who is a season removed from 25 goals and on a very team friendly contract. I could see how a team would choose Smith over Pageau, but at the same time I wouldn't want to take that risk.
Pay LV your 2017 1st rounder for them to take Bobby Ryan then both Pageau and Methot are kept.
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edguy
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Okay now that the freeze is on Phaneuf is staying put. Can we finally put this thread to rest..
Thankfully he will be staying in Ottawa
Thankfully he will be staying in Ottawa
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Why?
We'd still lose a player like Claesson, Burrows, Wideman, etc... and would then have one less asset to replace them with.
Might as well wait till after expansion and see what that 1st could return.
Lol no they arent
Well unless they have a deal done with Vegas they are going to lose a top 4 d man for nothing
that qualifies as screwed if that happens
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With Claesson/Harour/Chabot all in the wings to fill Methots spot, and a spare 4.9Mil in Cap, we will be fine.
Vegas is giving Ottawa (and every other team) 17Mil to join the league, they deserve to get some good players! And we have the depth to tank that blow
I suspect the Sens are okay with losing Methot and his cap hit and let claesson take his spot (which he did when meth lost his finger)
