Post-Game Talk: There is no defense for bad soup, or 5 Reasons Why Nurses Shouldn’t Serve Soup

[Stoneman89]

Only saw highlites (was out for dinner thankfully), and yes, Campbell looked like trash. No point elaborating as everyone on here has it covered. I would like to add though, that the Oilers did themselves no favours with the way they played the night before against the Hawks. By turning what should have been an easy win, instead morphed into a nail biting, use up the gas tank of all your core guys game. So, really, they started the losing process long before the Minny game started, with lots of help from Campbell.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

That the word buyout is already being tossed around not even halfway through his first season is so exasperating.

You fire the GM before you touch Campbell. I don't think anyone here would reasonably trust Holland to handle a potential Campbell situation.

 

[K1984]

Roloson eventually recovered just in time for us to ditch and sign the Boozin wall

If memory serves Roloson wanted a 2 year deal, but we only offered one because he was too old..... only to sign a different old goalie that wasn't as good to a 4 year deal for almost twice the money.

Late 2000's Oiler management 101.

 

[fancy dan]

trade campbell for markstrom?

 

[WaitingForUser]

If memory serves Roloson wanted a 2 year deal, but we only offered one because he was too old..... only to sign a different old goalie that wasn't as good to a 4 year deal for almost twice the money.

Late 2000's Oiler management 101.

Yep we offered one he took two in Tampa and we began the DOD. He by the way ended up going to game 7 of the ECF.

 

[K1984]

Yep we offered one he took two in Tampa and we began the DOD. He by the way ended up going to game 7 of the ECF.

He was also superhuman down the stretch for us that season when we were making a push to sneak into the playoffs.

I recall one game in Anaheim late in the year that he flat out stole for us. Shots might have been something like 50-20 for the Ducks and we won 2-1. Two year deal though so.

 

[9GWG9]

Tisk tisk Campbell! head case.

And the 12M dollar man can go F%&k himself!

 

[Stoneman89]

Tisk tisk Campbell! head case.

And the 12M dollar man can go F%&k himself!

Not sure I'm following. The only guy on the team making 12 mill is McDavid.

 

[Oilhawks]

Not sure I'm following. The only guy on the team making 12 mill is McDavid.

I think he means Nurse, since he's making $12M (his cap is $9.25M, which is what should matter most to the fans)

 

[rdogg]

I think he means Nurse, since he's making $12M (his cap is $9.25M, which is what should matter most to the fans)

Who is the guy you're using as an avatar?

 

[gordonhught]

Campbell 5 Goals on 3 xGA. Defense is putrid, PK even worse, depth scoring relatively non-existant. Seems like the exact problems that were present 4 years ago when Holland was brought here. Makes you go hmmmmmmmm......

It’s just a game.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

His confidence is shot. Our d play like shit in front of him so he has absolutely no help in that regard and to top it off Schwartz is the goalie coach tasked with helping him.

The Bermuda triangle of f*ckery.

First thing we need to do is shore up the D and the PK. Then let Skinner run with it for a bit and build Campbell back up by not going down on one knee 10x a night like Darnell is auditioning for a part in a play where his character proposes on ice. We have to at least try to make this work and hope that Campbell is at least a decent back-up for us.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

That's why some players get the full contract guaranteed, others get partial or no money guaranteed. The stars would still get their money.

Either that or leave the buyout window option open year round instead of just once a year.

The stars get their money and still hold out.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Tisk tisk Campbell! head case.

And the 12M dollar man can go F%&k himself!

Yeah.

Nurse isnt even in the top 10 of this teams problems.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

if you put sage in soup its f***ing sucks.....just saying.

and im pro sage.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Yeah.

Nurse isnt even in the top 10 of this teams problems.

The hell he isn't. Paid like an elite 2 way defenseman and he isn't elite at anything except going down on 1 knee and giving up shot lanes for the opposition.

 

[The Panther]

There is no excuse for not having the wherewithal 500 games into your NHL career to realize that throwing the puck into nobody in the slot as the pinching d-man is a high risk, zero reward play. And don't even get me started on him going down on one knee constantly like an unsure rookie.

There were other plays too, want to say it was near the end of the 1st when he decided to flip a puck in the air to the middle of the ice for three Wild players to easily pick off and walk in on an odd man look. Someone needs to reign this stupidity in with him because whatever is going on now doesn't work. If anything it's getting worse.

Sadly, this is true. I like Nurse and the team will obviously need him playing well if they're going to go anywhere. But he is not, and never will be, a high-IQ player defensively. After 500 games, he still makes bizarre pinches at the worst times. He still flubs clearing attempts with time to make the play. He still goes down on one knee all the time, to no good effect. (To his credit, he doesn't seem to randomly ice the puck all the time like he did in 2020 and earlier. Broberg has taken up that mantle.)

 

[The Panther]

To put Jack Campbell's struggles into perspective, chew on this:

During the entire 1980s, Steve Weeks, Pokey Reddick, and Richard Brodeur had the same save percentage as Campbell at present. Daniel Berthiaume and Roberto Romano (the guy the Pens suddenly put in net in spring 1984 to ensure their 'tank for Mario' was successful) had better save percentages in the 1980s than Campbell this season.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

The stars get their money and still hold out.

Sure, but it's not really any different than they do now though. It's not like some star signs a $6 million dollar x 5 contract then they break a record or put up ridiculous numbers the next season then want their contract re-negotiated. To my understanding, they can hold out at the start of the season of the final year on the current deal.

But it's a moot argument to have. I'd love to see non-guatanteed contracts but it'd never happen in this league which is too bad.

 

[gordonhught]

 

[AM]

You guys running another player out of town? You do realize, for the other team to score, they have to go through the rest of the team first? They just aren’t committed enough to taking the lines and getting in front of the puck.

 

[ZJuice]

You guys running another player out of town? You do realize, for the other team to score, they have to go through the rest of the team first? They just aren’t committed enough to taking the lines and getting in front of the puck.

Thanks dad

 

[CycloneSweep]

You guys running another player out of town? You do realize, for the other team to score, they have to go through the rest of the team first? They just aren’t committed enough to taking the lines and getting in front of the puck.

Campbell statistically is a bottom 5 goalie in the league when even with how bad our team is defensively, he shouldn’t be. Skinner is much better even with the same defence. You can’t watch Campbell play and think “well it’s the teams fault”.

The defence is bad. Campbell is worse. Both suck, both need to be far better.

 

[Kepler 186f]

Campbell was bad in this game but the Oilers coverage around their net was abysmal.

Nice of Nurse as well to have changed just prior to the backbreaking 4-2 goal that turned out to be the winner. This won't show up on the stat sheet or analytics but Nurse creates the circumstance of that goal on a poor line change leaving Ceci out to dry, and with the puck obviously not deep. I mean think about it. Nurse is a horse. Just stay out there. Why is he jumping off when Wild have a breakout? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Uh, Bouchard made the idiotic change not Nurse.

 

[K1984]

Sadly, this is true. I like Nurse and the team will obviously need him playing well if they're going to go anywhere. But he is not, and never will be, a high-IQ player defensively. After 500 games, he still makes bizarre pinches at the worst times. He still flubs clearing attempts with time to make the play. He still goes down on one knee all the time, to no good effect. (To his credit, he doesn't seem to randomly ice the puck all the time like he did in 2020 and earlier. Broberg has taken up that mantle.)

The sad thing is if he had a brain he would probably be an undisputed top tier defenseman in the NHL. His physical tools are incredible and the odd time he plays with his head on his shoulders he can be dominant. He just had a hockey IQ of about 75 and that is incredibly limiting.