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TV: The Wire All Purpose Thread Part 3: World just keeps turning, right?
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Vikke
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I had a hard time with Bodie, since I've watched Oz like 1000000000000 times.
Snoop and Omar are my favs, by far.
Snoop and Omar are my favs, by far.
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When I watched it for the first time a year ago, I came away feeling like it was pretty good, but was never amazed by it. The writing and pacing just felt a bit clunky at times, but I guess being HBO's first scripted drama series means that there were some kinks to work out. Actors were generally very good though. Seemed like the show's peak was seasons 1-4 though, as 5 and 6 became a bit heavy on what I felt to be "violence for the sake of violence".
Vikke
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I really, really wish that HBO remastered Oz, like they did The Wire.
I actually tried to watch Oz on HBO.com a while back, but it feels like back in the day when everything online was sooooo low resolution.
I actually tried to watch Oz on HBO.com a while back, but it feels like back in the day when everything online was sooooo low resolution.
Tkachuk4MVP
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I could never fully get behind Bodie after what happened with Wallace. I get that he was being a good soldier but it always bothered me.
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Agreed. I'm surprised Marlo didn't put a hit out on Randy for snitching. He was only a coule of years younger than Wallace. I guess Marlo knew putting it out in the schools that Randy was a snitch would teach him to shut up. I wonder how Michael would've handled that had he been rolling with Marlo's crew at the time.
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If I remember correctly, Marlo specifically asks if Randy is in the game or not. He wasn't. Wallace was. I think that's the difference. Killing regular citizens brings on far too much heat.
Going through my second watch of The Wire now. I know some people don't like the later seasons as much but as someone whose wife works non-profit (and thus I end up hearing about everything, volunteering etc) seeing the system fail time and time again rings really true for me so I really enjoy the later seasons. The fake serial killer thing may have been a little unbelievable but at the same time people successfully live public lies all the time and the ones who do get caught seem to have been doing it for a really long time.
I guess people who got hooked on the realistic portrayal of policing don't appreciate the other elements getting added in as much.
I guess people who got hooked on the realistic portrayal of policing don't appreciate the other elements getting added in as much.
Tkachuk4MVP
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I think you mean "last season," as 3 and 4 are generally considered to be the best. I do need to give season 5 a re-watch though.
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Bumping this, finished binge-watching this for the first time, and it easily became my favorite show of all time. The writing and social commentary is at a higher level than any other show I've ever seen, and the acting is strong enough to compare to the polish of Sopranos and Breaking Bad.
I've especially loved how relevant the themes are today. The institutional dysfunction that causes the corruption and distrust in the establishment? Exactly what has happened recently, and it's a shame that we didn't spend the last eight years reflecting on the valuable lessons this incredible show taught us.
I've especially loved how relevant the themes are today. The institutional dysfunction that causes the corruption and distrust in the establishment? Exactly what has happened recently, and it's a shame that we didn't spend the last eight years reflecting on the valuable lessons this incredible show taught us.
Not really sure if anyone may help out, but I'll give it a try:
Having a study related excursion to Washington, D.C. & Baltimore next year. We need to do some individual research projects that include lots of field work &
I'd like to do some stuff on the problem areas/ghettos of Baltimore that are depicted in The Wire. Just supposed to be one day in Baltimore with the professors.
But afternoons are mostly free & I may have the opportunity to drive up to Baltimore here and there.
Issues may be around segregation, public housing, ethnicity, crime, education, ... Due to safety concerns the execution of this project is pretty
much restricted by the supervising professors. As they are responsible during that time, I've to guarantee for my safety (at least to a satisfying degree).
Anyone from there & experiences in that area that may help me out in regard to guided tours, "relatively safe" movement in those areas and so on?
I'm aware of how those safety concerns look like, and me being white makes it even harder. But guess you feel my ambition when it comes to research on that issue. Alternatives may be around the safer surroundings (key words: (political) administration, media, harbor, ...). We all know what the most interesting issue is.
Thanks in advance for any input. Never been to that area & still trying to figure out how to make it work.
Having a study related excursion to Washington, D.C. & Baltimore next year. We need to do some individual research projects that include lots of field work &
I'd like to do some stuff on the problem areas/ghettos of Baltimore that are depicted in The Wire. Just supposed to be one day in Baltimore with the professors.
But afternoons are mostly free & I may have the opportunity to drive up to Baltimore here and there.
Issues may be around segregation, public housing, ethnicity, crime, education, ... Due to safety concerns the execution of this project is pretty
much restricted by the supervising professors. As they are responsible during that time, I've to guarantee for my safety (at least to a satisfying degree).
Anyone from there & experiences in that area that may help me out in regard to guided tours, "relatively safe" movement in those areas and so on?
I'm aware of how those safety concerns look like, and me being white makes it even harder. But guess you feel my ambition when it comes to research on that issue. Alternatives may be around the safer surroundings (key words: (political) administration, media, harbor, ...). We all know what the most interesting issue is.
Thanks in advance for any input. Never been to that area & still trying to figure out how to make it work.
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Don't know enough about Baltimore, but I promise that you can find the same in DC, especially Southeast. I would actually strongly recommend you go around there. It's safe enough during the day, I think, I have a friend who teaches in a school there and hasn't had many problems, but you could communicate with the police department for an escort. I would also suggest going through the schools, the kids there have... issues.
But I can't tell you anything about Baltimore.
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The other elements are what made it for me. The far-reaching impacts of the drug trade and institutional corruption. I've always been interested in transportation, shipping and ports, so I really enjoyed season two.
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Just a blue collar guy who thought he'd finally hit it big with no strings attached. Tempted by the financial side of smuggling, but the violent side of it never occurred to him and he got in over his head. Naive in the end.
NyQuil
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At the same time, he wasn't enriching himself for his own personal stake but rather to lobby politicians to expand port operations and get his people more hours of work.
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Watched in about two years ago so I have to read the plot on Wikipedia
Completely forgot about the political and canal dredging aspect.
Yeah, Frank was the only one on the show who was involved in criminal activity in order to help others rather than himself.
ArGarBarGar
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Frank was personally successful due to those drug operations. It's not like he was the Robin Hood of the show.
He was a very morally gray human being. Wanted to help his employees and the business he worked in but also had his own personal stake in it, too. A son and a nephew who he wanted to be successful, as well as keeping himself in power so he could run the docks the way he wanted to.
He was a very morally gray human being. Wanted to help his employees and the business he worked in but also had his own personal stake in it, too. A son and a nephew who he wanted to be successful, as well as keeping himself in power so he could run the docks the way he wanted to.
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The premise/ideas of season 5 are fascinating-- that's not why it gets flack-- The execution and focused direction was not as strong as in previous seasons (still very good though, IMO).
