Speculation: The Wings are interested in Horvat

[Holden Caufield]

Very reasonable price IMO.
Basically Raty and a (top 12) protected 1st round pick.


Beauvillier has no actual value.
A 25 year old, slow of foot, 3rd line left winger with a 4.2M/per cap hit. Basically what Fabbri was when we picked him up for nothing…. (Except Fabbri is quicker)

 

[StargateSG1]

Onto the "other" rumors...

NHL Rumors: Detroit Red Wings Shopping Defenseman

The Detroit Red Wings are heading in the right direction, but it is still more likely than not that they will be sellers at the deadline aga...

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[Pavels Dog]

What would the Wings equivalent of that trade be?

Räty is viewed like McDavid+ by some around here.

 

[SirloinUB]

Sooner than later the Red Wings will have to get a legit top 6 Center but Im not sure we are deep enough to be shipping out 1st round picks and top prospects right now.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Kasper + Edvinsson + 1st is way better than that package...

Yes it is. I also have no desire to pay that price for him

 

[JediOrderPizza]

"Teams interested in Oesterle."

 

[SirloinUB]

"Teams interested in Oesterle."

I’m probably talking out of both ends of my ass after downplaying Horvat (and expressing relief we didn’t pay this price for Horvat) but we’ll be rebuilding for ever if all we do is ship out Oesterle for a 3rd, namestnikov for a 4th, stretcher for a 7th, Bertuzzi for a 2nd, etc.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Woof. I hope he gets to FA.

He will, or NYI will have to dump someone like Pageau to keep him.

Also am I crazy or is NYI possibly the WORST fit out of the reported teams interested?

 

[13to40]

Tbh I think the return is underwhelming. I think the islanders made the best of this trade if he resigns. Beauvillier is a middle 9 player with minimal upside and Raty will probably be a 2nd line winger, so unless they hit a slam dunk with the protected pick… not too impressive of a return.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Was just thinking about it, besides Columbus we have the worst centers in the east right?

I still think Larkin is better than Aho in Carolina, and that he’s better than Barzal, Zibanejad, whatever Ottawa has, and on par with whatever Washington has right now. That said, our 2C in Copp is near The bottom of the league for 2Cs.

Also Horvat in NYI doesn’t scare me. He’s not playing with Pettersson, JT Miller or Boeser. I would be shocked if he’s scoring more than a 60 point pace there.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

 

[TheOctopusKid]

We have basically the Top 6 locked in with FLA getting healthy to take 1 of 2 WCs, leaving BUF, WAS, PIT, PHI, NYI, and DET all vying for the last spot.

We’re not making it in that mix, so better to cash in for this draft that has elite talent and depth. Look at those clown teams and offering up Oesterle, Bertuzzi, Sunny, and Maatta up to any of those teams for 1st and hope they miss. Isles made their move for the last spot, let’s keep pushing this arms race!

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

That Islanders team will have over 16 mil in cap space next year but that can go very quickly for them.

I wouldn’t rule out Horvat staying if the money is right but that’s a team that will be on the downside in about 2-3 years even with Horvat. Does he really want to find himself in the same boat he was on in Vancouver in a few years?

 

[JediOrderPizza]

That Islanders team will have over 16 mil in cap space next year but that can go very quickly for them.

I wouldn’t rule out Horvat staying if the money is right but that’s a team that will be on the downside in about 2-3 years even with Horvat. Does he really want to find himself in the same boat he was on in Vancouver in a few years?

Their capfriendly page is a trip. Who wants 5 mil!

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Onto the "other" rumors...

NHL Rumors: Detroit Red Wings Shopping Defenseman

The Detroit Red Wings are heading in the right direction, but it is still more likely than not that they will be sellers at the deadline aga...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Wow Jordan Oesterle, Yeah we should get a major haul for him.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

We have basically the Top 6 locked in with FLA getting healthy to take 1 of 2 WCs, leaving BUF, WAS, PIT, PHI, NYI, and DET all vying for the last spot.

We’re not making it in that mix, so better to cash in for this draft that has elite talent and depth. Look at those clown teams and offering up Oesterle, Bertuzzi, Sunny, and Maatta up to any of those teams for 1st and hope they miss. Isles made their move for the last spot, let’s keep pushing this arms race!

Detroit would have to take some depth players back in return. Our GRG call ups are not quite NHL caliber.

Who would be good trade targets for Maatta, Bert, Erne, Sunny, Suter, Hagg, Lindstrom, Vrana and Ned?

 

[Bench]

That Islanders team will have over 16 mil in cap space next year but that can go very quickly for them.

I wouldn’t rule out Horvat staying if the money is right but that’s a team that will be on the downside in about 2-3 years even with Horvat. Does he really want to find himself in the same boat he was on in Vancouver in a few years?

If they pay him like Barzal, he's gonna stay.

NHL contracts being fully guaranteed means the second someone slaps $60 million on the table you sign the deal and figure out if the team sucks later.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

If they pay him like Barzal, he's gonna stay.

NHL contracts being fully guaranteed means the second someone slaps $60 million on the table you sign the deal and figure out if the team sucks later.

Oh I agree. Still, that Islanders squad looks poised to finish 7th to 10th in the east every season for the next 5 seasons.

 

[StargateSG1]

Wow Jordan Oesterle, Yeah we should get a major haul for him.

Whatever he can get for him is a bonus.. lol

 

[TheOtherOne]

Wow Jordan Oesterle, Yeah we should get a major haul for him.

Just remember, a 6th rounder is technically equivalent to a Pavel Datsyuk.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Whatever he can get for him is a bonus.. lol

Yup if we get a 5th or 6th for him, That's better than nothing at all.

Just remember, a 6th rounder is technically equivalent to a Pavel Datsyuk.

And that's a good thing.

 

[evolutionbaby]

I still think Larkin is better than Aho in Carolina, and that he’s better than Barzal, Zibanejad, whatever Ottawa has, and on par with whatever Washington has right now. That said, our 2C in Copp is near The bottom of the league for 2Cs.

Also Horvat in NYI doesn’t scare me. He’s not playing with Pettersson, JT Miller or Boeser. I would be shocked if he’s scoring more than a 60 point pace there.

No where near Zib

 

[norrisnick]

No where near Zib

And his linemates are nowhere near Breadman.

 

[saska sault]

Very possible Horvat wants to hit free agency, maybe he resigns with the Islanders. Who knows. Think im more excited for us to spend our resources on something else if we make a big trade, we have cap space and shouldn't be giving up assets in a trade during a rebuild. Especially draft picks.

 

[Gniwder]

Räty is viewed like McDavid+ by some around here.

Nice strawman as usual. I said he'll be better than Buium, not McDavid.

That's like saying you view Cholo as the next Bobby Orr. Stop making crap up dude, complete troll post.

I would be tempted to do that trade if we had picked Raty, and this team was a few points closer to teh playoffs like teh Isles are.


Edit: Heck, if you told me protected first, Buium (who is supposed to be better than Raty according to everyone here) and Zadina for Horvat, I would've done it. Vancouver would have taken the Isles offer anyways.