Value of: The Tkachuks to Philly

[FlyersFanSinceBirth]

I realize this is highly unlikely, but what would it cost the Flyers to get Matthew Tkachuk from Calgary and then move up in the draft to take Brady Tkachuk?

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[Flames Fanatic]

Far, far more than you'd be willing to give.

I think Tkachuk is pretty much immovable, but to get the needle to move you'd have to give up pieces you'd never want to, like Provorov or Konency+

Not saying it's fair, as that's a rabbit hole I don't want to go down, just thats what it would likely take.

 

[stempniaksen]

Really don't see anything that would be available from the Flyers that would tempt the Senators to trade their #4 pick.

I also expect Flames fans to have an even harder time finding a fit for a Matthew Tkachuk trade based on their need for youth and wingers.

 

[Scintillating10]

I realize this is highly unlikely, but what would it cost the Flyers to get Matthew Tkachuk from Calgary and then move up in the draft to take Brady Tkachuk?

Would make a great draft day story if they could pull it off

 

[Kahvi]

I realize this is highly unlikely, but what would it cost the Flyers to get Matthew Tkachuk from Calgary and then move up in the draft to take Brady Tkachuk?

Basically take the best or most valuable young player Philly has (Provorov? Konecny?), and ask yourself what would you want from Calgary for him. Then change the roles, that's the price for Tkachuk. And the Flames still probably say no, for the same reason Philly would say no to a similar deal for their young player.

 

[blankall]

Far, far more than you'd be willing to give.

I think Tkachuk is pretty much immovable, but to get the needle to move you'd have to give up pieces you'd never want to, like Provorov or Konency+

Not saying it's fair, as that's a rabbit hole I don't want to go down, just thats what it would likely take.

I wouldn't do it for Konecny. Tkachuk was drafted much higher and has developed much better. Tkachuk has a huge all around game, and Konecny is undersized. Tkachuk is quickly becoming a player you build around. I wouldn't move Tkachuk for anything less than the Flyers' top tier of young players. More like Patrick, Gotisbehere, Provorov, Couturier.

 

[pmwlker]

Calgary isn’t trading theirs

The Flyers most likely just stay put at 14 and 19.

Neither seems remotely likely. Seems pointless to discuss what it would actually take but it’s safe to assume it would be painful for Flyers fans. Adding the brothers would cost us 14,19, and god knows how many other players/ prospects would be involved. Overall these moves hurt more than they help in my opinion.

 

[Flyerfan47]

Far, far more than you'd be willing to give.

I think Tkachuk is pretty much immovable, but to get the needle to move you'd have to give up pieces you'd never want to, like Provorov or Konency+

Not saying it's fair, as that's a rabbit hole I don't want to go down, just thats what it would likely take.

You're out of your mind, or whoever thinks thats what it would take ! NEITHER Tkachuk can carry Provorov's jock !

 

[stempniaksen]

You're out of your mind, or whoever thinks thats what it would take ! NEITHER Tkachuk can carry Provorov's jock !

But what's the incentive for the Flames to do it for anything less? So they can add a worse player?

 

[Flyerfan47]

I wouldn't do it for Konecny. Tkachuk was drafted much higher and has developed much better. Tkachuk has a huge all around game, and Konecny is undersized. Tkachuk is quickly becoming a player you build around. I wouldn't move Tkachuk for anything less than the Flyers' top tier of young players. More like Patrick, Gotisbehere, Provorov, Couturier.

You keep dreaming. Tkachuck and Konecny have almost the same goal total so your, Tkachuk has developed much better is hilarious. Getting drafted higher means absolutely nothing ! You want Provorov, Who just might be one of the best young defenseman in the league, You're adding more than Tkachuk

 

[Advanced stats]

You're out of your mind, or whoever thinks thats what it would take ! NEITHER Tkachuk can carry Provorov's jock !

As a neutral on this, you just have to realize that flames fans(right or wrong) hold Matt Tkackuck in the same value as phillP holds Provorov.
They obviously wouldn't trade him for Patrick or Konency, so Provo is the next step up the ladder.

Besides, he flat out said it wasn't likely fair.

 

[FlyersFanSinceBirth]

You're out of your mind, or whoever thinks thats what it would take ! NEITHER Tkachuk can carry Provorov's jock !

I don't think he was saying Tkachuk = Provorov. I think he meant if you want Tkachuk it would cost an overpayment, like Provorov. I wouldn't do it, but I understand why they would ask for that. Tkachuk is a hell of a player and they have no reason to move him without an overpayment.

 

[Flyerfan47]

But what's the incentive for the Flames to do it for anything less? So they can add a worse player?

Flames would be stupid to trade him , period. What point is there too that ? Flyers don't need a Tkachuck and they sure as hell don't need to trade a Provorov. It's a bad post if you ask me.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Realistically, probably something like:

Backlund
Tkachuk
Frolik

for

Couturier
Patrick
Konecny

 

[Starat327]

The cost of acquiring Matthew would be astronomic. To the point where we would be a worse team after acquiring him.

This is a nice fantasy land scenario but it just isnt realistically possible.

 

[pmwlker]

Realistically, probably something like:

Backlund
Tkachuk
Frolik

for

Couturier
Patrick
Konecny

That’s horrid for Philly. Easy and rapid pass

 

[rent free]

Realistically, probably something like:

Backlund
Tkachuk
Frolik

for

Couturier
Patrick
Konecny

lmao wtf is this horrible for philly

 

[ponder719]

Realistically, probably something like:

Backlund
Tkachuk
Frolik

for

Couturier
Patrick
Konecny

One of the words in the quoted post is ludicrously wrong. Can you tell which one it is?

Edit: OK, snark aside, Flames fans, we (well, most of us) totally understand, Tkachuk isn't moving. That's probably the full extent of what needs to be said; any "offer" proposed will just cause both fanbases to get angry and start hurling invective around.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Why are we trading for the Tkachuks?

We had the Schenns already. I'm good with not having brothers again.

 

[Kahvi]

One of the words in the quoted post is ludicrously wrong. Can you tell which one it is?

Edit: OK, snark aside, Flames fans, we (well, most of us) totally understand, Tkachuk isn't moving. That's probably the full extent of what needs to be said; any "offer" proposed will just cause both fanbases to get angry and start hurling invective around.

I'm guessing you haven't seen any proposals or Flames players analysis by OKG before

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Really don't see anything that would be available from the Flyers that would tempt the Senators to trade their #4 pick.

I also expect Flames fans to have an even harder time finding a fit for a Matthew Tkachuk trade based on their need for youth and wingers.

If Ottawa picks Brady Tkachuk at 4th that will be a massive mistake. Hughes Wahlstrom and Boqvist will be on the board, jump on that.

 

[Mallard]

Probably the same thing it would take the Flames to acquire Konecny.

 

[shortfuze]

I don’t know much about Tkachuk and Konecny. Stats wise they look pretty close. Are they pretty close?

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I think Ghost+.

 

[Starat327]

I don’t know much about Tkachuk and Konecny. Stats wise they look pretty close. Are they pretty close?

Tkachuk is more valuable.

Stats look similar until you look at games played.