I'm not just talking about those, the penalty for whining to the refs, the goalie interference calls, he doesn't seem to be able to reign in the physicality at a decent level and he's not good enough at anything else to compensate.
Well you said 5+game, so, you weren't talking about minor penalties.
The guy has 11 minor penalties, I believe 3-4 of them are roughing involved in fights.
So he has taken 7-8 penalties. So he has to work on his discipline a bit, like plenty of young players in his role.
Still, he is a 4th liner that is bring restricted to play his natural way.
What was Therrien supposed to do, seriously? Let him continue to run rough-shod and completely counter to the "team concept" he's been pitching to the entire team?
Well, I don't understand how a player that is dropping the gloves to pound away on a guy that just boarded one of your leaders, one of the assistant captains, is countering the idea of ''team concept''.
Sticking up for your teammate that was drilled into the boards from behind sounds like something a team player would do, not a selfish one.
I'm not saying White didn't have to work on his discipline, I just think they chose the wrong penalties to blame him on.
Speaking of team concept. You have a young kid that gives his 100% every time, who's willing to drop the glove and likely take a beating from bigger guys just to stick up for his teammates, I would imagine that the rest of the guys that are all about ''team concept'' could back him up and kill the penalties.
I'm not saying they should kill every single penalties. All I'm saying is that this ''team concept'' excuse is a little lame and can be spun both ways.
At the end of the day, all White did was try to stick up for himself (vs Ott), and his teammate (vs Fleischman). Maybe you can say he was selfish vs Buffalo, but he got suckered into it by Ott, you live you learn, but I didn't expect him to have to change his game entirely.
IMO you guys are taking way too much responsibility out of White's hands. No doubt Therrien had some harsh words for him, but to suggest he "neutered him" or is preventing him from playing his game is silly. White's a big boy, he has to figure out how to get his game on the right side of the edge to be able to play effectively without costing his team.
Plenty of players have been through what White's going through. Asham was a fine example, Rinaldo is another. Cooke is an extreme case, but he fits too. Guys who had to either figure it out, or lose their jobs.
He didn't cost the team anything. It's not because you take a penalty and get scored on that the rest of the 58min should be piled onto you. That way of thinking is the exact opposite of ''team concept'', something we're apparently trying to build.
I don't think Therrien neutered him. I think he gave him strict directives as to what he wants, I think he also scared White because he made it very public that if he screws up again it won't just be scratched for a couple of games.
So that gives you a Ryan White that goes on the ice and plays on his toes, it's painfully obvious just looking at the guy that he's playing stressed, he doesn't look comfortable at all out there. That's probably the reason why he hasn't fought in over two months (last 18 games), or in other words, since he pounded Ott and got scratched for it.