Prospect Info: The Prospect Thread (Part XXVIII)

[Pip]

Thin defender with good skating?

Must be Tanev 2.0

 

[CouverNucks]

Watched the third period......positionally sound and makes a good first pass...brings little or no offense to the table and doesn't appear to have much a point-shot....a good defensive d-man in the Tanev mold is pretty accurate.

I would be extremely satisfied if we ended up with anything even similar to a Tanev clone. Given he was a 3rd rounder i think we would all be pretty pleased

 

[jimslob]

I would be extremely satisfied if we ended up with anything even similar to a Tanev clone. Given he was a 3rd rounder i think we would all be pretty pleased

Not me; Tanev was a free agent signing. If that's all we can hope for from Brisebois why did we waste such a valuable draft pick on him.


It is all about how high the pick was isn't it?

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Not me; Tanev was a free agent signing. If that's all we can hope for from Brisebois why did we waste such a valuable draft pick on him.


It is all about how high the pick was isn't it?

No matter what, getting a defender as good as Tanev in the 3rd round is a home run pick.

 

[kanucks25]

I have absolutely no idea why but I thought you were talking about Tryamkin who has no Z in either of his names

For some reason I also thought Tryamkin initially.

I thought it was Tryamkin too and then also realized he doesn't have a "Z" in his name.


I'm thinking it's because Tryamkin is big like Chara, and Chara's nickname is "Z".

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Tue Nov 17

Canada-Russia Series

Russia 3 QMJHL 2
Brisebois 0 points, -1

S_C

 

[CouverNucks]

Not me; Tanev was a free agent signing. If that's all we can hope for from Brisebois why did we waste such a valuable draft pick on him.


It is all about how high the pick was isn't it?

I can't help but feel that you're joking. Even with a FIRST rounder you would have no reason not to be happy with getting a Tanev out of the draft. So either you don't really understand what Tanev brings (check advanced stats) or you're just saying that to get people going

 

[jimslob]

I can't help but feel that you're joking. Even with a FIRST rounder you would have no reason not to be happy with getting a Tanev out of the draft. So either you don't really understand what Tanev brings (check advanced stats) or you're just saying that to get people going

Guilty as charged.

 

[CouverNucks]

Guilty as charged.

LOL to which offense?

 

[Jimson Hogarth*]

Even If Briesbois is a poor mans Tanev I'll be so pumped.

 

[MS]

This new comparing of every thin, non-producing, kinda smart defender to Chris Tanev is ridiculous. It's the same thing as comparing every no-talent 6'8" defender to Zdeno Chara.

Brisbois' skillset is a lot closer to Lukas Krajicek than it is to Chris Tanev.

Tanev is a unique talent who developed in a spectacular fashion.

 

[Pip]

"Corrado is basically Tanev was a better shot"
-2013 HFnucks

 

[PM]

"Corrado is basically Tanev was a better shot"
-2013 HFnucks

Until we waived him now he's trash. Apparently.

 

[Ryp37]

Comparing Brisebois to the rest of his Super Series roster
18, 3rd round 2015, 66th overall to Van, 21GP 3 goals 4 assists 7 Points

Nicolas Meloche 18, 2nd round 2015, 40th overall to Col, 17GP 5Goals 7Assists 12 points

Jeremy Lauzon 18, 2nd round 2015, 52nd overall to Bos, 19GP 3Goals 24Assists 27 Points

Thomas Chabot 18, 1st round 2015, 18th overall to Ott, 18GP 6Goals 10Assists 16 Points

Olivier Leblanc 19, 7th round 2014, 197 overall to Cbj, 21GP 2Goals 14Assists 16 Points

Samuel Girard 17, Eligible 2016, 24GP 3Goals 28Assists 31 Points

Phillipe Myers 18, Undrafted, Signed by Phi, 22GP 8Goals 9Assists 17 Points


I'd honestly just avoid drafting D out of the Q in the future

 

[VanJack]

Have to agree...drafting d-men out of the Q is a crap-shoot at best....The late Luc Bourdon being the exception I guess, but tragically, no way of knowing how he'd have turned out....not sure what is is, but many of them seem to morph into the second coming of Yann Sauve.

 

[timw33]

Comparing Brisebois to the rest of his Super Series roster
18, 3rd round 2015, 66th overall to Van, 21GP 3 goals 4 assists 7 Points

Nicolas Meloche 18, 2nd round 2015, 40th overall to Col, 17GP 5Goals 7Assists 12 points

Jeremy Lauzon 18, 2nd round 2015, 52nd overall to Bos, 19GP 3Goals 24Assists 27 Points

Thomas Chabot 18, 1st round 2015, 18th overall to Ott, 18GP 6Goals 10Assists 16 Points

Olivier Leblanc 19, 7th round 2014, 197 overall to Cbj, 21GP 2Goals 14Assists 16 Points

Samuel Girard 17, Eligible 2016, 24GP 3Goals 28Assists 31 Points

Phillipe Myers 18, Undrafted, Signed by Phi, 22GP 8Goals 9Assists 17 Points


I'd honestly just avoid drafting D out of the Q in the future

Precisely this. Draft D in the OHL/WHL—don't even bother looking at the Q.

 

[Verviticus]

This new comparing of every thin, non-producing, kinda smart defender to Chris Tanev is ridiculous. It's the same thing as comparing every no-talent 6'8" defender to Zdeno Chara.

Brisbois' skillset is a lot closer to Lukas Krajicek than it is to Chris Tanev.

Tanev is a unique talent who developed in a spectacular fashion.

i feel like ive read this post a million times and yet people still do it

do you mind if i just cut and paste this every time it comes up

 

[Bleach Clean]

Precisely this. Draft D in the OHL/WHL—don't even bother looking at the Q.

Vlasic and Letang, lest we should forget.

 

[timw33]

Vlasic and Letang, lest we should forget.

Compared to how many being pumped out of the WHL and OHL in the same time span?

 

[StIllmatic]

Until we waived him now he's trash. Apparently.

Corrado looked amazing that season for his age and progressed consistently well since his draft.

 

[Josepho]

Until we waived him now he's trash. Apparently.

At the time, people were right in saying that Corrado was great. He looked fantastic at the time. But since then, he really hasn't developed much at all.

 

[orcatown]

Didn't think any part of his game was dynamic or overly compelling. Nice skater, sees the play and moves the puck well. However, I don't see much untapped potential. In comparison a player like Chabot, while still a little clumsy, has the size and range to suggest he will continue to get better and better as he smooths out his game. Would question Brisebois ceiling.

As far as a player like Letang is concerned you could see, at the same age, that Letang was just an outstanding skater whereas Brisebois looks like a good skater.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Wed Nov 18

WHL

Prince George 1 Calgary 3
Olson 0 points, -1

After the game, coach Mark Holick was quoted, "Olson had a real good game - In fact, I'd say he's progressing like a young Chris Tanev..."

S_C

 

[banme*]

Didn't think any part of his game was dynamic or overly compelling. Nice skater, sees the play and moves the puck well. However, I don't see much untapped potential. In comparison a player like Chabot, while still a little clumsy, has the size and range to suggest he will continue to get better and better as he smooths out his game. Would question Brisebois ceiling.

As far as a player like Letang is concerned you could see, at the same age, that Letang was just an outstanding skater whereas Brisebois looks like a good skater.

Well ya, there's a reason one of them was taken in the 1st round!

 

[Bleach Clean]

Compared to how many being pumped out of the WHL and OHL in the same time span?

What I mean by that we can't ignore a region. Even if our scouting has traditionally been poor there.