Speculation: The Price for Jack Eichel

[Flyer lurker]

I just read an article that said the Rangers inquired about trading for Eichel and were told the price would be Lafreniere + Kaako + 1st.

I'm assuming the article is just media fodder, but if not, are thr Sabres delusional? Anyone who thinks they get that return is out of their minds.

The Sabers would be crazy to not ask for the moon for Eichel.

A team would be crazy to pay the moon.

There is a difference.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Lafreniere will be better than Eichel imo

Maybe, Laffy has really struggled this year, I would say his ceiling is about the same as Eichel's

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I think the Rangers would be willing to send one of them over for Eichel but not both.

 

[EdJovanovski]

A 24 year old true franchise center is worth more much than 2 bottom 6 wingers who might become first liners and a first round pick.

That's an interesting way to describe 19 & 20 year old 1st & 2nd overall picks lmao

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

I don't blame the Rangers from balking at the ask, but the reality is that Eichel is a proven PPG player since his Rookie season.

Kakko & Lafreniere - 99 Career GP , 16G 18A, 34P

Eichels Rookie Season (at 19) - 81 GP 24G, 32A , 56P

One is not like the others, can you guess which?

 

[EdJovanovski]

I don't blame the Rangers from balking at the ask, but the reality is that Eichel is a proven PPG player since his Rookie season.

Kakko & Lafreniere - 99 Career GP , 16G 18A, 34P

Eichels Rookie Season (at 19) - 81 GP 24G, 32A , 56P

One is not like the others, can you guess which?

Proven PPG player since his rookie season by putting up 56pts in 81 games?

 

[Hale The Villain]

Replace Kakko with a center and a D prospect and I think it makes more sense:

Eichel for Lafreniere + Chytil + Schneider + 1st

or

Eichel for Lafreniere + Strome + Lundkvist + 1st

Steep price to pay, but we're talking about a potential 100+ point center here. Have to give to get.

 

[bellringer77]

I get that its probably the ask and not bad to ask for that but I think they wouldn’t trade both those guys just based upon you’d wanna keep one around for Eichel. These kinds of trades are scary though and almost never turn out equal value.

I’d love Eichel but trading for him could either blow up in your face or be a steal with that kind of stuff

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Proven PPG player since his rookie season by putting up 56pts in 81 games?

Let me re-phrase that, since the conclusion of his rookie season, he has been a PPG player.

And he produced at a significantly higher rate than the two Rangers combined, at the same age....

 

[Jedub]

Their is no chance he returns that. I mean zero imo that is an abused package. Laf upside is insane

Insane? Never heard that before. Definitely heard that Laf had elite upside. Well Eich is elite right now.

 

[LOFIN]

I don't blame the Rangers from balking at the ask, but the reality is that Eichel is a proven PPG player since his Rookie season.

Kakko & Lafreniere - 99 Career GP , 16G 18A, 34P

Eichels Rookie Season (at 19) - 81 GP 24G, 32A , 56P

One is not like the others, can you guess which?

No one is denying what Eichel is. He's a top-10C in the league, on a good year a top-5C. That said, Kakko and Laf, as much as they have struggled so far, still have very big potential. Rangers can maybe give up one of 'em for Eichel. 1. Not both. I think Rangers would prefer to keep both and throw Buch on the package and some defensive prospects instead. Which obviously makes Buffalo to hang up, but if Eichel is unhappy who knows...

 

[Team Cozens]

Rangers would be really stupid to trade all that

Where so they get an elite 1C from?? You don’t win in this league without one. Rangers should just wait a few years and see if Barkov becomes available as a UFA.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

That definitely won't be what it takes. You can get him for less.

 

[CupInSIX]

I just read an article that said the Rangers inquired about trading for Eichel and were told the price would be Lafreniere + Kaako + 1st.

I'm assuming the article is just media fodder, but if not, are thr Sabres delusional? Anyone who thinks they get that return is out of their minds.

I'm sorry, did you want the Sabres to give him away out of the kindness of their hearts?

That's actually a pretty reasonable ask IMO. Vegas should be all over that.

 

[themelkman]

Buffalo likely doesnt value Kakko as a 2nd overall anymore

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

No one is denying what Eichel is. He's a top-10C in the league, on a good year a top-5C. That said, Kakko and Laf, as much as they have struggled so far, still have very big potential. Rangers can maybe give up one of 'em for Eichel. 1. Not both. I think Rangers would prefer to keep both and throw Buch on the package and some defensive prospects instead.

Every team would like to keep their bluechip prospects and trade other assets for a franchise center. It simply doesn't work that way.

Proven>Potential. So if you want make a deal based on the premise of potential, you have to give more of it for the proven piece.

I could understand if one of Laff or Kakko was scoring at a decent clip, but they aren't. Centers will always be more valuable then complimentary wingers, especially ones who were hyped to hell and have looked ok but not spectacular at all.

 

[Heldig]

Seems pretty reasonable to me...

Established franchise center for two (albeit very good) question marks and a mid to late 1st.

Lots of risk for Buffalo. I would ask for one of the Rangers great young D instead of Kakko. And I would guess salary such as Strome would need to go back.

Eichel -> Strome, Lafrenniere, Lindgren and a 1st.

 

[Schenn]

I think the Rangers would have Laf as a complete non starter. For whatever reason the trade I see happening is something like Kakko + K'Andre + Kravstov + 1st.

 

[robertocarlos]

You can keep him.

 

[LOFIN]

Buffalo likely doesnt value Kakko as a 2nd overall anymore

Then he is off the table. Despite his lack of scoring, he has looked very good so far this year. Yeah yeah, moral victories and whatnot but he's not a bust that's getting traded for chips.

 

[Harbour Dog]

I don't believe that any self-respecting writer actual put that into words. OP is reading some no name blogger or just making shit up

 

[ToDavid]

I just read an article that said the Rangers inquired about trading for Eichel and were told the price would be Lafreniere + Kaako + 1st.

I'm assuming the article is just media fodder, but if not, are thr Sabres delusional? Anyone who thinks they get that return is out of their minds.

If I’m the Rangers I take that yesterday. The chances of getting an Eichel caliber player at the draft are very low.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Oh my god, people actually think this is sensible!?

Okay, back to HFNYR, this thread is liable to give me an aneurysm.

 

[Dust]

Eichel is a much better player than both those guys, and was also much better in his rookie year. I think it's a fair ask. In almost any other draft year Eichel goes 1st overall, just happened to be one guy better than him in that stacked draft.

 

[Flan the incredible]

Matthews is a better player, but not by that much. Eichel has a much better contract.

As to the rumoured offer, it's heavy, but probably fair (once you include some salary going back to buffalo). When is the last time a top 5 center, controlled for 5+ seasons on a solid contract was traded? There's no comparable. There's a very strong chance that Eichel is the best piece in the trade.

I disagree. Matthews is a much better player and seems to be getting better.. Eichel is good dont get me wrong but not in that category.

When was the last time a 1st and 2nd overall was traded in the same package literally a year and two after they were drafted. Way more top level players have been moved then a package like that. Especially for a player that if he is traded wanted out.