The Peter DeBoer thread

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/shootoutstat...&team=NJD&viewName=shootoutSkaterCareerTotals

Olesz is 3-18 according to this.

Yuck. Thought I read he was good? 18 is a smallish sample but still - yuck.

 

[SeidoN]

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 8m

Brodeur said he "tried" to let Volchenkov score on him, "but he didn't take it."

LOL Volch cant even score when Marty lets him

 

[Unknown Caller]

if you dont think Fayne is much better than Volch or Harrold than I dont know what to tell you.

I haven't seen anything from Fayne that makes me think he's much of an upgrade from Harrold. Fayne might be slightly better defensively (and that's debatable), but Harrold is an offensive upgrade from Fayne. Toss up between those two.

I agree that Fayne is better than Volchenkov, but the difference isn't all that significant. If you remove price tag and age and simply evaluate the players based on their on-ice play, Fayne is slightly better but they're not separated by much.

I know that's not a popular opinion on this board, but I don't see the reliable defenseman in Fayne that everyone else does.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

I haven't seen anything from Fayne that makes me think he's much of an upgrade from Harrold. Fayne might be slightly better defensively (and that's debatable), but Harrold is an offensive upgrade from Fayne. Toss up between those two.

I agree that Fayne is better than Volchenkov, but the difference isn't all that significant. If you remove price tag and age and simply evaluate the players based on their on-ice play, Fayne is slightly better but they're not separated by much.

I know that's not a popular opinion on this board, but I don't see the reliable defenseman in Fayne that everyone else does.

Go back and watch the 2012 playoffs if you don't think Fayne is reliable.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Go back and watch the 2012 playoffs if you don't think Fayne is reliable.

I could also go back to the 2012 playoffs and see Stephen Gionta as an offensive dynamo.

 

[Uli Hiemer]

Harrold is absolutely horrible defensively. Whatever...Fayne played 82 games plus the playoffs with a broken wrist in 2012 and he was consistent throughout.

 

[Devils Unseen Hand]

During some down time today, I finally thought of who could right the Devils ship when/should Petey D. gets the enviable hook from the Devils Coaching Position.

He won't be the favorite amongst everyone here, nor myself for that matter. However, he will get the most out of everyone on this roster. Moreover, he wants a Stanley Cup to his resume.

That man would be Pat Quinn.

 

[GameSeven]

I could also go back to the 2012 playoffs and see Stephen Gionta as an offensive dynamo.

3-4-7 in 24 games. And for those who care about advanced stats, by far the worst on the team that postseason. Let's *please* not extend this narrative about Gionta.

Pete has an irrational love affair with him to this day over that playoff run.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

again, if you don't think Fayne is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade from 10 and 28, then I don't really have anything else to say

 

[SeidoN]

again, if you don't think Fayne is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade from 10 and 28, then I don't really have anything else to say

a bag of sand is an upgrade. at least its consistent

 

[SeidoN]

I could also go back to the 2012 playoffs and see Stephen Gionta as an offensive dynamo.

Pete already did this

 

[CKPLAYA]

During some down time today, I finally thought of who could right the Devils ship when/should Petey D. gets the enviable hook from the Devils Coaching Position.

He won't be the favorite amongst everyone here, nor myself for that matter. However, he will get the most out of everyone on this roster. Moreover, he wants a Stanley Cup to his resume.

That man would be Pat Quinn.

Still waiting for a single comment about the real culprit of this debacle of a roster.
Not a thread. That won't happen here. No one is winning with this roster.
Feel free to start a thread for objective conversation about this team and org.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Still waiting for a single comment about the real culprit of this debacle of a roster.
Not a thread. That won't happen here. No one is winning with this roster.
Feel free to start a thread for objective conversation about this team and org.

please tell me what you wanted Lou to do.

Clarkson was never coming back. Parise was never coming back. 17 quit.

he signed Brunner, Ryder, Clowe, and Jagr. Not perfect, but not bad either.

PLEASE post your thoughts on what Lou should've done and stop saying that the roster sucks. what would you have done differently then?

 

[Devils Unseen Hand]

Still waiting for a single comment about the real culprit of this debacle of a roster.
Not a thread. That won't happen here. No one is winning with this roster.
Feel free to start a thread for objective conversation about this team and org.

We know it all starts with Lou & his decision-making.

I feel when Marty packs it in, so does Lou.

 

[CKPLAYA]

please tell me what you wanted Lou to do.

Clarkson was never coming back. Parise was never coming back. 17 quit.

he signed Brunner, Ryder, Clowe, and Jagr. Not perfect, but not bad either.

PLEASE post your thoughts on what Lou should've done and stop saying that the roster sucks. what would you have done differently then?

Just check all my comments from before. I word have gutted the scouting department and rebuilt through the draft. Word have gave up pick #29 and kept #9 this year. Would not have signed one of the players he signed this off season. They need to clean house.the cupboard is bare. The best is Schneider. Only two years on the deal. If he's not signed by next summer heat walking. Plus still waiting for Marty to say he's done. Just a complete mess.

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

Not a mess. Don't see how the cupboard is bare because it is actually the opposite of bare.

Considering the roster, I thought it would be hard to lose with the depth it has, regardless of chemistry. I now see the importance of chemistry and a coach with his head on his shoulders and not between his cheeks.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

Just check all my comments from before. I word have gutted the scouting department and rebuilt through the draft. Word have gave up pick #29 and kept #9 this year. Would not have signed one of the players he signed this off season. They need to clean house.the cupboard is bare. The best is Schneider. Only two years on the deal. If he's not signed by next summer heat walking. Plus still waiting for Marty to say he's done. Just a complete mess.

LOL. You wouldn't have signed Ryder, Brunner, Jagr, and Clowe? How exactly were we supposed to ice a team this year then? Just let Clarkson and Kovalchuk walk and not doing anything to help offset the losses. Yea, that would make a lot of sense.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

again, if you don't think Fayne is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade from 10 and 28, then I don't really have anything else to say

I think he is but that aint sayin a whole lot. he's a run of the mill #4-6 defenseman.

I can't wait until our d prospects are no longer prospects. schneider+ the new wave of d will be the revival of the franchise.

 

[Uli Hiemer]

I think he is but that aint sayin a whole lot. he's a run of the mill #4-6 defenseman.

I can't wait until our d prospects are no longer prospects. schneider+ the new wave of d will be the revival of the franchise.

schneider staying is a big if.

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

schneider staying is a big if.

I agree that it is an if, but not a big one. If he stays, he can be the face of a franchise. And if he's not into that, it's not like New Jersey is crazy about hockey anyway.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

schneider staying is a big if.

That's baseless. Nothing to indicate he'll leave.

 

[Uli Hiemer]

That's baseless. Nothing to indicate he'll leave.

and so is saying he'll stay, nothing indicates that either.



Why isn't there a thread for Lou? the 29th pick alone should be grounds for discussion.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I think he is but that aint sayin a whole lot. he's a run of the mill #4-6 defenseman.

I can't wait until our d prospects are no longer prospects. schneider+ the new wave of d will be the revival of the franchise.

that just isn't true.

 

[ScottyK]

During some down time today, I finally thought of who could right the Devils ship when/should Petey D. gets the enviable hook from the Devils Coaching Position.

He won't be the favorite amongst everyone here, nor myself for that matter. However, he will get the most out of everyone on this roster. Moreover, he wants a Stanley Cup to his resume.

That man would be Pat Quinn.

I'd rather throw myself off a bridge

 

[JimEIV]

I'd rather throw myself off a bridge

I'd follow.