The Out of Town Thread LXXXVI

[V13]

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I think Noob was being sarcastic

That said i am tired of Crosby being used as the measuring stick and golden boy of the league. Like really tired. Yes he is good and one of the best but he is not Wayne Gretzky or Mario Lemieux. The gap between him and the other top guys like Stamkos is not very wide at all.

Hell people will call me nuts but if i'm going into the playoffs i consider taking Kane over Crosby.

 

[MasterDecoy]

Crosby's contract was signed in a different cba and he is so superstitious he chose to go with 8.7.

His loss

 

[GoodKiwi]

Yeah, I only figured out Noob616 was sarcastic after he added the smiley. I haven't been following the Subban hoopla closely, so I missed it at first.

 

[MasterDecoy]

I think Noob was being sarcastic

That said i am tired of Crosby being used as the measuring stick and golden boy of the league. Like really tired. Yes he is good and one of the best but he is not Wayne Gretzky or Mario Lemieux. The gap between him and the other top guys like Stamkos is not very wide at all.

Hell people will call me nuts but if i'm going into the playoffs i consider taking Kane over Crosby.

You are nuts, look at the supporting casts. Hockey is not basketball, you need a whole team to win - especially now. Two of the best centers in the world will not carry a team through a **** defence and goalie....this isn't the 80's anymore

 

[V13]

You are nuts, look at the supporting casts. Hockey is not basketball, you need a whole team to win - especially now. Two of the best centers in the world will not carry a team through a **** defence and goalie....this isn't the 80's anymore

That's fine. I am not expecting my position to be popular at all. But to me when it come to the playoffs...well it's all about the playoffs. Forget the regular season numbers , i want guys who always being it and are clutch as hell. Crosby may have the better stats but Kane has been a better big game player than him , at least in the NHL imho.

And i know that supporting cast is important but i'm not just talking about winning the cup. I'm talking about the guy you want more when things are on the line. Patrick Kane has been absolutely stellar in those situations. Drew Doughty also come to mind

 

[axman88]

LOL! Kane and Toews contracts = our top two lines (albeit before Gallagher gets a raise)
Patches - 4.5
Desharnais - 3.5
Gallagher - .87
Paranteau - 4
Plekanec - 5
Galchenyuk - 3.225

= 21.095

 

[Dagistitsyn]

LOL! Kane and Toews contracts = our top two lines (albeit before Gallagher gets a raise)
Patches - 4.5
Desharnais - 3.5
Gallagher - .87
Paranteau - 4
Plekanec - 5
Galchenyuk - 3.225

= 21.095

Yeah, contracts are getting ridiculous. Hard to manage.

 

[Monctonscout]

Yeah, contracts are getting ridiculous. Hard to manage.

I have no issue with those deals, those guys are worth it.

It's when clowns like Clarkson, Niskanen and Engelland get big money that it makes no sense.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

Wow, Lightning fans on the main boards have gotten seriously arrogant about their team

Don't like this team. They're just a bunch of similar players, who don't complete each others particularly well.

 

[le_sean]

Wow, Lightning fans on the main boards have gotten seriously arrogant about their team

Don't like this team. They're just a bunch of similar players, who don't complete each others particularly well.

I think you're selling them short. They have a Top 3 player in the league and a Top 3 goalie last year. They now have the depth up front and on defence after this summer. It's a scary team.

 

[Marc-E-]

I think you're selling them short. They have a Top 3 player in the league and a Top 3 goalie last year. They now have the depth up front and on defence after this summer. It's a scary team.

Add to this a certain Jonathan Drouin. The Bolts will be solid.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

I think you're selling them short. They have a Top 3 player in the league and a Top 3 goalie last year. They now have the depth up front and on defence after this summer. It's a scary team.

Add to this a certain Jonathan Drouin. The Bolts will be solid.

I'm not saying they'll bust for sure. But seeing comparisons to Chicago and teams as such makes me think they're getting overrated quite a bit. I personally don't see Drouin having the impact of a MacKinnon in his future, I don't see Bishop repeating next season, and I see quite a couple of guys on that roster who might have a sophomore slump.

 

[Monctonscout]

I think you're selling them short. They have a Top 3 player in the league and a Top 3 goalie last year. They now have the depth up front and on defence after this summer. It's a scary team.

Not sure they are that scary.

Stamkos is an excellent player, but he lost one of the best playmakers in hockey in St.Louis, so it will affect his production.

Bishop had a great year but he was 27, is it a fluke or is he really a top 10 goalie...jury is very much out on that. They also got great production from some pretty unknown rookies...will they maintain it, are they Conacher II or will they have a sophomore slump?

TB might stick as a top 4-5 team in the conference, but they could also slip to 7-8-9-10 range.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

Reading their fans makes me wish they crash and burn ala Sabres 2011-2012 after their "great" offseason. So much arrogance.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

I'm sorry... but that's ridiculous

Yeah we got swept, did not have our Vezina nominated goal-tender and had a horrible back up. Had a disallowed goal, where in 29 other arenas would of counted. Sorry but excuses will be made, and these excuses are legit.

 

[Dagistitsyn]

@DanyAllStar15: Yeah, Hollywood Heatley is in the ****in house can't wait to stroll around on boardwalks in my flip flops and push kids off skateboards

Heatley signed with the Ducks

 

[Redux91]

Crosby's contract was signed in a different cba and he is so superstitious he chose to go with 8.7.

His loss

Cap hit of 8.7 on the books yeah..

But he's making 12 million a year right now sans endorsements

His loss..?

 

[bigtimehockeyfan999*]

Wow, Lightning fans on the main boards have gotten seriously arrogant about their team

Don't like this team. They're just a bunch of similar players, who don't complete each others particularly well.

 

[GordonGraham]

LOL! Kane and Toews contracts = our top two lines (albeit before Gallagher gets a raise)
Patches - 4.5
Desharnais - 3.5
Gallagher - .87
Paranteau - 4
Plekanec - 5
Galchenyuk - 3.225

= 21.095

6 players for a total of 0 cups

 

[pine*]

LOL! Kane and Toews contracts = our top two lines (albeit before Gallagher gets a raise)
Patches - 4.5
Desharnais - 3.5
Gallagher - .87
Paranteau - 4
Plekanec - 5
Galchenyuk - 3.225

= 21.095

4 cups vs 0.

145 playoff points vs 72 playoff points since 2009-10

 

[Em Ancien]

4 cups vs 0.

145 playoff points vs 72 playoff points since 2009-10

Regardless of their merit (and they have been key contributors to championship runs), the problem with both of them getting such a high cap hit is it becomes extremely difficult to build a team around them when about 2/7th of next year's cap is going to be tied in 2 players.

They will be around 70M$ in used cap next season and have only 15 players signed. That's a whole line and bottom pair to sign on about 4M$ with 0 wiggle room. I really hope for them the cap keeps increasing at a good rate because they're going to be dealing a lot of their vets.

 

[BLONG7]

The Hawks have destroyed their depth...both guys are good players, but 10.5M per for 8 yrs...

 

[hockeyfan2k11]

I'm sorry... but that's ridiculous

Sounds like a fan of damn near any team...including Hab fans.

 

[CHarlie]

The Hawks have destroyed their depth...both guys are good players, but 10.5M per for 8 yrs...

The only thing I would be worried about if I signed these two is injuries..........and if they have healthy careers..........they are both worth it!!!!!

 

[TennisMenace]

Finally, no more Kane threads. Maybe someone will lobby for Seabrook instead.