Prospect Info: The Nascent 2020 Draft Thread

[PKSpecialist]

I'd say yes but my concern with him is that he will be highly pressured to stay in the KHL. You draft him an it could be 4-5-6 years before he comes over.

No problem there in my opinion. Him staying and developing in a men's league elsewhere would be really good for us. If there's anything that can be seen from Russia right now is that their goaltender development appears to be ahead of North America. Leave him there for at least 3 years. When he comes over here he won't just be ready for a shot, he might be ready to step right in as a starter.

The only issue I see with the Russian league and goalies is that their stamina doesn't seem great, which could in part be due to the shorter season. That said, I'm thinking a goalie of Askarov's ilk will get all the play he wants in international tournaments, so he should see a lot of pucks.

We have a good team right now, our prospect pool is as strong as its been in a long time, this is the perfect time to draft BPA and let the prospects develop in the system and overripen before being thrust into the fire. I understand our needs on wing, but we have a defense issue coming that could alleviate our wing issue. Klefbom/Larsson/Bear/Nurse/Samorukov/Bouchard/Broberg…..we have depth at a position that could easily be traded to help elsewhere.

I will say that unless Askarov falls though that I probably wouldn't draft a goalie this year if I was Edmonton.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

No problem there in my opinion. Him staying and developing in a men's league elsewhere would be really good for us. If there's anything that can be seen from Russia right now is that their goaltender development appears to be ahead of North America. Leave him there for at least 3 years. When he comes over here he won't just be ready for a shot, he might be ready to step right in as a starter.

The only issue I see with the Russian league and goalies is that their stamina doesn't seem great, which could in part be due to the shorter season. That said, I'm thinking a goalie of Askarov's ilk will get all the play he wants in international tournaments, so he should see a lot of pucks.

We have a good team right now, our prospect pool is as strong as its been in a long time, this is the perfect time to draft BPA and let the prospects develop in the system and overripen before being thrust into the fire. I understand our needs on wing, but we have a defense issue coming that could alleviate our wing issue. Klefbom/Larsson/Bear/Nurse/Samorukov/Bouchard/Broberg…..we have depth at a position that could easily be traded to help elsewhere.

I will say that unless Askarov falls though that I probably wouldn't draft a goalie this year if I was Edmonton.

No argument for me, Russia is definitely a goalie factory the last decade and if you can get him over by age 21 it's fine but like I said there is a lot of pressure on Russian players, especially highly talented ones like Askarov, to stay in the KHL. It's always a factor.

For me our 1st is Askarov or a forward in the range we are picking. There's going to be some real good forwards in that range and our system needs an injection of offensive talent.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Based on nothing but a gut feeling, the players I think the Oilers will target in their range are:

Noel Gunler, Jan Mysak, Jacob Perrault, Dawson Mercer, Rodion Amirov, and JJ Peterka.

Jack Quinn too, but he'll likely get picked a fair bit higher.

 

[McDNicks17]

I don't know if it's a coincidence, but Holland and Wright have picked a lot of guys with late birthdays from the Q with their first pick.

Zadina, Svechnikov, Mantha, Frk, Jurco.

Dawson Mercer fits that bill, but not sure he's around at the Oilers pick.

 

[McDNicks17]

Speaking of the Q too, I'd be down to draft Yegor Sokolov in the 5th-7th.

6'4'' 240lbs RW. One of the best shots in the CHL. Not a great skater, but not as bad as you'd expect.

He turns 20 this June, so he could go straight to Bako next season.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I don't know if it's a coincidence, but Holland and Wright have picked a lot of guys with late birthdays from the Q with their first pick.

Zadina, Svechnikov, Mantha, Frk, Jurco.

Dawson Mercer fits that bill, but not sure he's around at the Oilers pick.

They're not in the Q, but Gunler and Amirov are also late-birthdays that I could see Holland targeting.

Mainly I just see him going for a sniper (Gunler, Perreault, Mercer, and Amirov to an extent) and I could see him having some interest in the Germans. I think he might also like how versatile Mysak's game is.

 

[Soli]

Speaking of the Q too, I'd be down to draft Yegor Sokolov in the 5th-7th.

6'4'' 240lbs RW. One of the best shots in the CHL. Not a great skater, but not as bad as you'd expect.

He turns 20 this June, so he could go straight to Bako next season.

I like him as well as an overager, still got eyes for coke machines that can play. He may have opened to many eyes after the World Juniors.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Tim Stutzle just said that McDavid is his favourite player and Draisaitl is his 2nd favourite.

How much will it cost to trade up to 3rd overall?

 

[Zaddy]

@Zaddy

Haven't heard much from you regarding the draft. I generally like your opinions on prospects/scouting, any players you like/dislike, draft lists, etc..?

Curious as well, specifically about a few Swedes the Oilers may have a chance at in the later rounds: Oskar Magnusson, Daniel Ljungman and Adam Wilsby.

Yep. I'm really curious as to his opinions on Gunler and Nybeck. Gunler is such a polarizing prospect, and Nybeck doesn't seem to get much attention. I would love to add either of them, (Nybeck probably in the 2nd, if we acquire one). Zaddy knows his Swedes.

Thanks guys but I haven't really followed this season much at all so I don't have much insight to add unfortunately. Maybe I'll get around to watching some more footage before the draft, I don't know yet but it feels unlikely considering the Coronavirus with no more hockey, no U18's etc, my interest is just not really there at the moment.

Anyway, I have posted quite a bit on Nybeck and I love his game. I have a few comments on Gunler as well. You should be able to find them in this thread if you search on my username.

I have a few highlights on these guys on my YT too: Swedish Hockey Prospects

 

[Zaddy]

I don't know if it's a coincidence, but Holland and Wright have picked a lot of guys with late birthdays from the Q with their first pick.

Zadina, Svechnikov, Mantha, Frk, Jurco.

Dawson Mercer fits that bill, but not sure he's around at the Oilers pick.

And most of those guys haven't worked out too well. I'd be very wary of any late birthday guy from the Q.

I don't really like the Q in general, it's just specific guys that you can see that transcends the league that are worth picking, but those are very few and far between. Even a guy like Drouin that looked like a future superstar hasn't come anywhere close to his potential.

I don't know anything about Mercer so he might be one of those exceptions but looking at his production it seems really modest and on top of that he's a winger and doesn't have size (if the listing at EP is true). What do you like about him?

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

And most of those guys haven't worked out too well.

I wouldn't say that. Svechnikov looks like a bad pick, but that's really it. Zadina is too early to tell, Mantha was a great pick, and Jurco and Frk were decent for the 2nd round.

I don't really like the Q in general, it's just specific guys that you can see that transcends the league that are worth picking, but those are very few and far between. Even a guy like Drouin that looked like a future superstar hasn't come anywhere close to his potential.

The league's improved as a whole over the past few years, it's not as easy to score in the Q as it once was. I believe the OHL had a higher goals per game this year than the Q.

I don't know anything about Mercer so he might be one of those exceptions but looking at his production it seems really modest and on top of that he's a winger and doesn't have size (if the listing at EP is true). What do you like about him?

At 6'0, he's not exactly small. His passing, shot, vision, and two-way play are all above average and his hands are elite. One of the more complete players in the draft outside of the top-10.

Although in my opinion Mavrik Bourque is the most intriguing prospect coming out of the Q this year. He's younger than Mercer and has better production and probably higher upside. There is more risk though, as he can be lazy in his own end and is an average skater, but his vision and control of the game's pace reminds me so much of Draisaitl.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I wish there was a way for us to draft Stutzle.



(This video and the one I posted above were both made by @Draft Dynasty. He has some great work, go check out his channel.)

 

[nally]

I cant find anything on Askirov or Mercer in the prospects thread. Might be that I cant seem to figure out how to search threads on mobile. Which I'm only using because I cant seem to reset my password on my pc.
Page 11 starts to be mostly about last years draft...didnt go past that

 

[McDNicks17]

I cant find anything on Askirov or Mercer in the prospects thread. Might be that I cant seem to figure out how to search threads on mobile. Which I'm only using because I cant seem to reset my password on my pc.
Page 11 starts to be mostly about last years draft...didnt go past that

Here's Mercer's: C Dawson Mercer - Drummondville Voltigeurs, QMJHL (2020 draft)

I might be blind or Askarov's is buried somewhere.

 

[nally]

Here's Mercer's: C Dawson Mercer - Drummondville Voltigeurs, QMJHL (2020 draft)

I might be blind or Askarov's is buried somewhere.

Thank

 

[Stud Muffin]

I cant find anything on Askirov or Mercer in the prospects thread. Might be that I cant seem to figure out how to search threads on mobile. Which I'm only using because I cant seem to reset my password on my pc.
Page 11 starts to be mostly about last years draft...didnt go past that

The search button seems to have disappeared on mobile, no idea why.

 

[nally]

Who can help me figure out my password so I can log in on my pc. Would an admin be able to help me with that? Who would that be? I remember Soundwave was...havent seen him in a while.

I get an error when i click on reset password on the site.

I will remove this post after

 

[McDNicks17]

Who can help me figure out my password so I can log in on my pc. Would an admin be able to help me with that? Who would that be? I remember Soundwave was...havent seen him in a while.

I get an error when i click on reset password on the site.

I will remove this post after

There's a little faint "Forgot your password?" under where you put your password in when logging in.

Have you tried that? Guessing it sends something to your email to reset it.

 

[nally]

There's a little faint "Forgot your password?" under where you put your password in when logging in.

Have you tried that? Guessing it sends something to your email to reset it.

Yes, when I key in my email and hit send it gives me an error message saying there was an error processing your request

 

[Bryanbryoil]

IMO this draft is one where the scouts will really prove their worth or lack thereof. Less viewings and no Gretzky/Hlinka to raise or drop players stocks.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

IMO this draft is one where the scouts will really prove their worth or lack thereof. Less viewings and no Gretzky/Hlinka to raise or drop players stocks.

Yep. Europeans especially get a lot of their coverage from the U18s, particularly those playing in the MHL, SuperElit, or SM-Liiga. I suspect we'll see lot's of mid-late round steals this year.

Khusnutdinov and Ovchinnikov are my picks for steals.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

I wish there was a way for us to draft Stutzle.



(This video and the one I posted above were both made by @Draft Dynasty. He has some great work, go check out his channel.)

I tried a draft simulator where stuetzle was there at 20. I took him.

Also nybeck was there in the 3rd

Sounds good to me.

 

[Llamamoto]

I tried a draft simulator where stuetzle was there at 20. I took him.

Also nybeck was there in the 3rd

Sounds good to me.

I did that one too lol.

 

[Soli]

Talk is circulating today that the NHL is discussing having the draft in June.

Keeping NHL Draft in June raises lots of questions - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Stud Muffin]

Talk is circulating today that the NHL is discussing having the draft in June.

Keeping NHL Draft in June raises lots of questions - Sportsnet.ca

The draft is one of my favorite things to watch on tv, getting to see the smiles on players and family’s faces when there called to the stage is something I’m gonna miss a lot.