Sportsnet: The Marleau Accord - Patty Requests to be Traded to a Western Team

[ACC1224]

If only there were some way to rapidly travel from one place to the other in the same state.

damn.

oh well.

I imagine if given the choice he'd prefer to live with his family.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

Toronto = No where near California.


Apparently Patty’s wife wants to be back in Cali, which is where she is from IIRC

Not saying I don't believe you, but do you have a link?...

 

[Sypher04]

not that I don't want marleau of the team I do but is it possible that this is a chess move by leafs management to see if marner's demands lower?

marner and marleau seem to be close so this should be interesting

I personally doubt they are related at all beyond the Leafs trying to get more cap space.

 

[ACC1224]

I think this tweet implies that the Leafs have already floated this idea by Marleau and would waive his NMC provided that it's back to a California based team. Makes sense, if true.

If true, will it be considered an enormous failure on Dubas' part if Marleau gives him an out and he doesn't use it?

 

[Pocket Hercules]

If true, will it be considered an enormous failure on Dubas' part if Marleau gives him an out and he doesn't use it?

Depends on LA's asking price and what contracts they have in mind to unload.

 

[ottomaddox]

Marleau is not a bum. Marleau is a human being.

 

[Sypher04]

If true, will it be considered an enormous failure on Dubas' part if Marleau gives him an out and he doesn't use it?

I'd say no, because he would still require a willing partner in California to facilitate the deal. It's not exactly a slam dunk

 

[ACC1224]

Depends on LA's asking price and what contracts they have in mind to unload.

Does it matter if it helps clear up some cap?

 

[Sypher04]

Marleau is not a bum. Marleau is a human being.

Oh good grief. Nobody is suggesting he isn't. Doesn't change the business of all this, nor the fact that he's simply not a good player anymore.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

Does it matter if it helps clear up some cap?

No, but if they're trying to unload Phaneuf back to us, well then....

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Toronto = No where near California.

Apparently Patty’s wife wants to be back in Cali, which is where she is from IIRC

Well, a wife's wishes can play a roll no doubt.

Patty is going to be traveling even more then with the additional travel involved of getting back to Bay area.

 

[JEI]

 

[justafan22]

Marleau + x for Martinez and Clifford?

 

[Deebo]

If true, will it be considered an enormous failure on Dubas' part if Marleau gives him an out and he doesn't use it?

As with almost everything, the answer is "Depends"

What if Marleau is willing to waive for SJ or LA but those teams want too much in the way of assets to make a deal and Dubas decides against it, then I wouldn't call it a failure.

If there is a good deal on the table and he just declines it for no reason, then sure, call it failure.

 

[ACC1224]

No, but if they're trying to unload Phaneuf back to us, well then....

Removing the cap is the goal, return is irrelevant IMO.

 

[TimeZone]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[Menzinger]

He's as good as gone then?

Nothings set in stone. But theres enough smoke now to suggest just a matter of time before it happens.

This rumor fits with what was reported a few weeks about about how Dubas was looking to move out salary mid season to bring in another big named D man

 

[ULF_55]

Marleau and Nylander for Doughty

unlike

Doughty's contract is going to be horrendous.

 

[ACC1224]

As with almost everything, the answer is "Depends"

What if Marleau is willing to waive for SJ or LA but those teams want too much in the way of assets to make a deal and Dubas decides against it, then I wouldn't call it a failure.

If there is a good deal on the table and he just declines it for no reason, then sure, call it failure.

That would have to be weighed against whatever moves happen as a result of not moving him.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

As with almost everything, the answer is "Depends"

What if Marleau is willing to waive for SJ or LA but those teams want too much in the way of assets to make a deal and Dubas decides against it, then I wouldn't call it a failure.

If there is a good deal on the table and he just declines it for no reason, then sure, call it failure.

Any team that gets into the discussion with the Leafs about Patrick Marleau are going to recognize that there will be few suitors for PMs services. Those teams are going to recognize they have leverage.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

Removing the cap is the goal, return is irrelevant IMO.

What is Phaneuf's cap hit? Also, isn't he signed on for a few more years. How would that make sense from Toronto's point of view?

 

[Deebo]

That would have to be weighed against whatever moves happen as a result of not moving him.

Right, so you can't call not moving him if he is willing to waive a "massive failure" without a lot more information.

 

[Deebo]

Any team that gets into the discussion with the Leafs about Patrick Marleau are going to recognize that there will be few suitors for PMs services. Those teams are going to recognize they have leverage.

Yeah, so you you have to decide if the asset cost associated with moving him is worth it.

 

[ACC1224]

What is Phaneuf's cap hit?

No idea

 

[ACC1224]

Right, so you can't call not moving him if he is willing to waive a "massive failure" without a lot more information.

Obviously