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  1. Hawkaholic

    Hawkaholic Registered User

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    Lol at people trashing Toews. He has easily been the Hawks best player this year, and is looking like his old self. He is the only one that seemingly cares out of the core group.

    Kane on the other hand....
     
  2. Toews2Bickell

    Toews2Bickell It's Showtime

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    Hawks were going to conference finals and winning cups while Pittsburgh was getting throttled in the first round on a yearly basis...lets chill on the “leagues” better...
     
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    Might as well just have an auto-thread after every Blackhawks loss so everyone can be reminded of Seabrooks cap hit and term. Mix in a little Toews is a 2C. And just to spice things up throw in a Panarin reference. Bonus points if the word albatross is seen in the first 5 comments. This is like the 3rd or 4th thread this week.
     
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  4. Blackhawkswincup

    Blackhawkswincup RIP Fugu

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    Guess all the carrying of Hawks done by Kane as Toews was MIA for years is catching up to him

    At end of day the Hawks are a bleak and dire mess at this point. The only real positive at this point is Dylan Strome

    Joker was positive development for team until this idiot coach came in and has completely moved to ruin him and stunt all development
     
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    Like many have said, this isn't as much about their all-stars as it is more about the players around them and failure of the organization to build around them.

    The past decade I look at the Hawks, Kings, Pens, and Caps as teams with top-end talent and sustained success. I hate giving the pens and caps credit, but it's not just ovechkin kuzy crosby and malkin. They've made some incredible moves and drafted some great players in addition to these guys.
     
  6. Phil68

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    Lmao you really think if the Hawks had to choose to ship one of the two players you think they would ship Kane over Toews? lmao
     
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    You don't watch many Hawks games do you? Toews has been their best player all season and has been having a great season. He is dragging around others. Dcat has doesn't anything since moved away from Toews. Saad is playing better now with Toews. Crawford , Seabrook and Keith have been the huge disappointments and Kane though still scoring has looked disinterested and lazy in a lot of games.
     
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    you are clueless try watching a few games
     
  9. Phil68

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    Shhhh your thinking out loud and it's not good.. the Pens have had/have more longevity when it comes to playoffs and let's get real here Back 2 back cups. And i guarantee they will in the playoffs and making deep runs for the next couple of years until Crosby and Malkin retire.. Major difference between Crosby & Malkin vs Toews & Kane. Hell at leas Kane is worth his contract.
     
  10. Toews2Bickell

    Toews2Bickell It's Showtime

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    Hawks went to 5 conference finals and won 3 cups in a ten year span with 10 consecutive years of playoff appearances. Get real with this longevity bull****. Pittsburgh took a 6 year nap after their 2009 cup.
     
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  11. Hawkaholic

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    I don't think they would choose to ship either of them out. And if they did, yeah, they would probably ship Kane out.
     
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    mashedpotato full stack.

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    They seem to be in a steep decline and headed towards a rebuild.

    They've had their success - it couldn't have lasted forever.

    Pack it up. There are better teams now.
     
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    They got bit by the cap. It's been predicted to happen eventually since their first cup win in 2010.
     
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    Pens went to 2 finals and won a cup vs the best hockey team on the planet. The Hawks were not in any conversation then. The Pens won two cups when the Hawks were no longer a factor in the SC runs. That is the difference. Pens will decline over time but no question the Hawks bet the farm on that 5 year run and are now paying dearly for that. Toews is a good player but he is not close to that player that can be compared to the best. Pens are not stuck with players contracts that are basically killers. Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Letang now healthy can play with anyone.
     
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    Finlandia WOAT Bench Constance Garnett

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    Actually its "Da Hawkss". Please change thread title accordingly.
     
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  16. Phil68

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    Oh i see, you for the Cup Final appearance in 2008. wait my bad.. Wait wait, where are the hawks the past years.. Wait let's make it 3 now.. They don't even get in the playoffs back to back year.. Hawks must be great at Golf.

    Oh yes back to back cups.. Hmmm the Hawks after their cup in 2010 where sent out the first round in 11 and 12 back to back.. Easy son. The Hawks did fairly well but, they are not the Crosby and Malkin Level in Cap era..
     
  17. Toews2Bickell

    Toews2Bickell It's Showtime

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    Lets make it three what...they missed the playoffs last year for the first time in a decade because they lost their starting goaltender. Who gives a **** about back to back. They both have three cups...
     
  18. PensandCaps

    PensandCaps Berrick Drassard.

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    Maybe if they weren't paying a low end 1C 10.5 million, they could spend money elsewhere. Like defense.


    Toews isn't the reason on the ice why they're bad. But he is the reason why they traded Panarin and don't have cap space for Defense.

    Paying a 6 million player, 10.5 million is recipe for disaster.


    Also, paying Seabrook 6 mil is horrendous.
     
  19. Kranix

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    They had a good run.
     
  20. Hawkaholic

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    And Maybe Toews was MIA for years after having to play a lot tougher minutes than Kane through the Stanley Cup years.
     
  21. CokenoPepsi

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    Nah Toews was always protected getting to play with Hossa and Sharp all the time... And even then there was only one season where Toews was clearly better than Kane 11-12
     
  22. Hawkaholic

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    Yes, "protected" playing against the other teams best players every night, playing PK, and playing in his own end.
     
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    Anyways when they get Panarin back and upgrade their D a little bit I could see them being playoff team next year.

    Hopefully Hughes as well to replace Toews
     
  24. Hawkaholic

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    Lol, your Toews hate is strong and unwarranted. He's been our best player this year.
     
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    Toews for years was playing with a guy who may have been even better than him he was always given the best breaks

    Toews used to be a very good player in his prime but the whole "tougher mins" thing doesn't fly considering even in Toews prime Kane was still the majority of the time better.
     

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