The Final Official Crosby Thread(all Talk Goes Here, Punks...or Else)

[The Dopefish]

I'll give you the opportunity to defend that comment while I see if there's anything against that.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Crosby may live with Mario. Mario made the offer . . .

........ and one of Crosby's representatives thinks that it is a good idea.

Rizzo said that with the approval of Lemieux's wife Nathalie, he'd love to see the young Crosby find a home in the Lemieux household.

"That's going to be up to Sidney, obviously, to decide that," Lemieux said. "But we're going to be taking care of him. Whatever he needs to make him feel more comfortable, we'll be there for him."

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune...e/s_356369.html

 

[alecfromtherock]

I knew it would jinx them for good.

Wasn’t there a mock-draft on Sprotsnet(or other sports channel) in which Toronto had the #1 pick?

That, not the picture, was the reason Toronto ‘lucked out’ of the #1 pick.

Crosby is Montreal bound eventually and the Leafs fans should not hold their breath that Crosby EVER plays for their team.

Actually holding your breath is far more healthier then breathing in smog-ridden 42 degree humidex air in Toronto

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I too am setting the bar for Crosby's rookie season very high, but he's going to the ideal situation for his offensive skills to shine.

90-100 points.

 

[Marmax]

wow 100 pts for crosby in his rookie season u gotta be drunk or somethin. Last season art ross winner martin st-louis only got 96pts. Imo if crosby stays healthy and if the pens get some talented players to help him out a 60-70pts would be very good. He will need some time to get the pace of the nhl. That said i hope he still get an exeptionnal season cause im a long time crosby fan since i first heard of him 3 years ago.

 

[The Dopefish]

wow 100 pts for crosby in his rookie season u gotta be drunk or somethin. Last season art ross winner martin st-louis only got 96pts.

In a league where defense > offense.

 

[Andy_Social]

A local newspaper reprinted a story they did featuring Crosby when he was 7.

http://www.hfxnews.com/index.cfm?sid=512&sc=3

 

[littleD]

I too am setting the bar for Crosby's rookie season very high, but he's going to the ideal situation for his offensive skills to shine.

90-100 points.

Great, so if he doesn't reach that, we can hear how disappointed you are and what a bust he is.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

First of all, he's going to start one way or another. What line he's on or what position he plays is the big question. If the Pens can thieve Malkin back from Russia you're possibly looking at a Lemieux-Malkin-Crosby line (and this is before free-agency). The first thought of that being, "Wait, that's three centers on the same line." Well, Mario once played the wing in a comeback and if Crosby is as flexible as they're touting he and/or the other two probably could do the same. And, as we're all well aware, Mario Lemieux is a proven point machine.

I'd rather see something like

Lemieux-Crosby-Malone
Someone-Malkin-Recchi

Malone would score A LOT of goals.

Crosby would dig pucks out of the corners feed Lemieux who would then set up Malone.

The 2 Pittsburgh savior + the pittsburgh kid. Dream line for the pens.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I'd rather see something like

Lemieux-Crosby-Malone
Someone-Malkin-Recchi

Malone would score A LOT of goals.

Crosby would dig pucks out of the corners feed Lemieux who would then set up Malone.

The 2 Pittsburgh savior + the pittsburgh kid. Dream line for the pens.

No way I would play any of the three, Malkin, Crosby, Mario, on each other's lines other than rare occassions. The main thing that sets all three apart is almost sureal hockey sense. That kind of thing that transcends all the sports. The thing that for instance Peyton Manning has in football, where the field slows down for just him and he knows that fifth reciever . . . or sixth, is going to break open and puts the ball right where he will be . . . 5 seconds later. Mario has that more than perhaps anyone ever did. Warren Young scored 40 goals on his wing remember? Cam Neely, after playing on his wing in an all star game, said that a fire hydrant could score 40 goals on Mario's wing. Just put all three down the middle and watch and see ordinary wingers become extraordinay on those three lines. Just imagine Mario as perhaps your third line center among those three. Christ. Choose your poison. My dream line is to separate those three for as long as Marion plays.

Mario, Malkin, Crosby and Fleury down the middle. Christ. No guarentees any of those (except for Mario of course) will live up to their hype, but Christ, that is scary. I am still in utter disbelief.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Great, so if he doesn't reach that, we can hear how disappointed you are and what a bust he is.

Absolutely not. I just think that the setting is perfect for him to deliver the goods...and he will. He's that good.

I'll slightly edit what I wrote in order not to offend...

If Sidney Crosby plays 82 games (or very close to it) in the NHL in 2005-06, he'll rack up 90-100 points.

 

[Steve Latin*]

........ and one of Crosby's representatives thinks that it is a good idea.

Rizzo said that with the approval of Lemieux's wife Nathalie, he'd love to see the young Crosby find a home in the Lemieux household.

"That's going to be up to Sidney, obviously, to decide that," Lemieux said. "But we're going to be taking care of him. Whatever he needs to make him feel more comfortable, we'll be there for him."

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune...e/s_356369.html

Class as always.

However, if I were Sid, I don't think I'd want to live with my boss

IIRC, Fleury didn't take him up on the same offer.

S L

 

[Jag68Sid87]

No way I would play any of the three, Malkin, Crosby, Mario, on each other's lines other than rare occassions. The main thing that sets all three apart is almost sureal hockey sense. That kind of thing that transcends all the sports. The thing that for instance Peyton Manning has in football, where the field slows down for just him and he knows that fifth reciever . . . or sixth, is going to break open and puts the ball right where he will be . . . 5 seconds later. Mario has that more than perhaps anyone ever did. Warren Young scored 40 goals on his wing remember? Cam Neely, after playing on his wing in an all star game, said that a fire hydrant could score 40 goals on Mario's wing. Just put all three down the middle and watch and see ordinary wingers become extraordinay on those three lines. Just imagine Mario as perhaps your third line center among those three. Christ. Choose your poison. My dream line is to separate those three for as long as Marion plays.

Mario, Malkin, Crosby and Fleury down the middle. Christ. No guarentees any of those (except for Mario of course) will live up to their hype, but Christ, that is scary. I am still in utter disbelief.

Playing Mario and Sidney together makes sense, since I think right now Mario's a better LW than C at this stage of his career.

Lemieux-Crosby-Recchi
Malone-Malkin-Kovalev/Morozov


Looks great to me.

 

[bearcat11]

It hasn't been decided yet whether Malkin will be in the NHL next year has it? I certainly hope he is, it'll be fun to watch him and Crosby adapting to the NHL game next year.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Hasn't been decided yet, no. But the good news is that the IIHF came to an agreement with the NHL today, so it will clear the way for the Penguins to sign him... and it would make the most sense to do so now, IMO.

The crop of impressive youngster playing this year is already pretty ridiculous even if Malkin decides not to come over. It's going to be a blast watching all these guys. Barring even Crosby there's obviously Ovechkin, plus Carter, Lehtonen, and Vanek among others.

 

[damoose212001]

Most likely going to be

Lemieux-Crosby-Kovalev(If we get him)
Malone-Malkin-Recchi

If Malkin does sign, it's been rumoured he'll take top line, although I see Crosby and Mario being on the same line and I don't know why Mario would play line 2. Kovalev is a great playmaker, so Mario will have not one, but two guys setting him up, and Recchi showed last season(the one that existed, hehe) that he can amass a ton of points even at his age, plus with no doubt, he is a fan favorite, and was even when he was a Flyer. We may sign another LW, and bump Malone up to line 3, who knows, but I think our days of having trouble at Center are over.

 

[nomorekids]

wow, so Crosby will be putting up more points than Iginla?

Neat.

 

[Injektilo]

Agreed, there's no way an 18 year old rookie scores more points than the art ross winner did last season.


I'm guessing it'll be something like 20-30-50, depending on the linemates and icetime. He'll probably be a minus player as well.

 

[Jack Canuck]

If Mario is healthy for 60 games and paired with Crosby I find it hard to believe that Crosby would not put up a point per game if he is half as good as the hype.

 

[HabsRenegade]

Class as always.

However, if I were Sid, I don't think I'd want to live with my boss

IIRC, Fleury didn't take him up on the same offer.

S L

Sidney gonna live with Mario?

Wow that would make a good tv soap.

Tonight on Fox... the most popular tv show on the moment... The After-Game!

The life of the greatest hockey player with the best current rookie... there's going to be some funny situation tonight at 8 pm only on Fox!

 

[HfxMoose]

Here's a good read on Crosby.
http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2005/07/28/fSports187.raw.html

 

[EroCaps]

Absolutely not. I just think that the setting is perfect for him to deliver the goods...and he will. He's that good.

I'll slightly edit what I wrote in order not to offend...

If Sidney Crosby plays 82 games (or very close to it) in the NHL in 2005-06, he'll rack up 90-100 points.

 

[Oilerfan120582]

Everybody wants to compare Crosby to Lemieux and Gretzky. Well, Lemieux scored 100 points in his rookie season. However, he was a year older than Sid and the league was a whole lot more offensive. Taking that in to consideration, I think 60-70 points would be enough to keep the comparisons alive, and is about what I expect. Of course, if he does end up playing a whole season with Mario and Kovalev or something like that, getting top line minutes, PP minutes, and if the league is more offensive this year, then I don't think 90-100 is ridiculous.

Before he played his first season in the Q, didn't everyone say, "no way will he ever get more than 80 points", well he scored 135, led the entire CHL and won player of the year. Not that I'm expecting the same sort of thing in the NHL, but it wouldn't surprise me either.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Here's an interesting article on whether Cosby can live up to the hype: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/draft2005/columns/story?id=2118375

 

[Le Golie]

Here's an interesting article on whether Cosby can live up to the hype: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/draft2005/columns/story?id=2118375

I found it rather uninteresting. It's basically a negative view of the hype around Crosby based solely on expectations real hockey people don't even have. Nobody that really knows the game expects Crosby to be all the things that article makes the hype out to be. And the only quotes the reporter could find to support his opinion were from an agent. An anonymous agent - real meaningful insight.

Find me a scout or an NHL GM who says things like 'He's not that good.' Anonymous agents don't carry a lot of credability.