The Everything Rebuilding/Development Thread: Leafs Clinch Pre-Lotto 4th

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We dont have to get a franchise player this draft. What we need is a 1C or a 1D. They aren't necessarily the same thing.

If we don't get McDavid then ..

With our top pick we're looking for our Tyler Seguin (#1C) and with our Nashville pick we're looking for our Dougie Hamilton (#1D).

Then we will be on our way to building our new core.

Dylan Strome and Thomas Chabot/Jakub Zboril might just do that.
 

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We only need to tank for a couple years in order to be successful. Look at the Chicago Blackhawks' "core" (top 6 forwards, top 4 defensemen, starting goalie). We need a Jonathan Toews type of guy. Phil Kessel is arguably our Patrick Kane type of guy. But the ship might have sailed for Phil Kessel. Patrick Kane won a Stanley Cup at 21 years old. Phil Kessel will be 28 next season and wingers peak earlier than any other position in the NHL. Will Phil Kessel still be our Patrick Kane for much longer when the Leafs finally have their **** together?

- 2 high draft picks (star goal-scorer Patrick Kane, franchise player 1C Jonathan Toews)
- 1 mid-round draft pick (Brent Seabrook)
- 5 later-round draft picks (Brandon Saad, Corey Crawford, Duncan Keith, Niklas Hjalmarsson, Andrew Shaw)
- 1 trade for a then-UFA rental (Johnny Oduya)
- 1 high-profile UFA (Marian Hossa)
- 1 reclamation project UFA (Brad Richards)

Chicago Blackhawks

Top 6 Forwards (sorted by TOI)
Jonathan Toews - 3rd overall 2006 (Chicago draft pick)
Marian Hossa - 12th overall 1997 (UFA signing, high-profile)
Brandon Saad - 43rd overall 2011 (Chicago draft pick)
Patrick Kane - 1st overall 2007 (Chicago draft pick)
Andrew Shaw - 139th overall 2011 (Chicago draft pick)
Brad Richards - 64th overall 1998 (UFA signing, misfit from the NY Rangers, reclamation project)

Top 4 Defensemen (softed by TOI)
Duncan Keith - 54th overall 2002 (Chicago draft pick)
Brent Seabrook - 14th overall 2003 (Chicago draft pick)
Niklas Hjalmarsson - 108th overall 2005 (Chicago draft pick)
Johnny Oduya - 221st overall 2001 (acquired via trade, UFA rental player in 2012, re-signed by Blackhawks)

Starting Goalie
Corey Crawford - 52nd overall 2003 (Chicago draft pick)


You have to realize that it doesn't work just like that. Chicago drafted their team, but it took awhile because not everything worked out. It took 3 years before they got their number 1 Centre and 4 in total to get another franchise type guy to pair him with. There's no guarantee with prospects either. Sure we have some blue chip guys in Rielly and Nylander, but we have to hope they pan out. And we have to fill the prospect pool as much as possible to remove any possible margin for error on our guys busting. If we're being completely optimistic, then we'd need to tank at least 3 years to make sure we have enough POTENTIAL talent to compete later on.
 

Daisy Jane

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If we don't get McDavid then ..

With our top pick we're looking for our Tyler Seguin (#1C) and with our Nashville pick we're looking for our Dougie Hamilton (#1D).

Then we will be on our way to building our new core.

Dylan Strome and Thomas Chabot/Jakub Zboril might just do that.

why are we looking for our "Tyler Seguin" and "Dougie Hamilton" ?
 

Phion Keneuf

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Really hope we snag Daniel Bernhardt in a later round.

6'2, 190 pound Swedish winger who can play both sides. He's first in SuperElit scoring with 61 points in 44 games. (Engvall is ranked 3rd in scoring)
 

Apotheosis

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Really hope we snag Daniel Bernhardt in a later round.

6'2, 190 pound Swedish winger who can play both sides. He's first in SuperElit scoring with 61 points in 44 games. (Engvall is ranked 3rd in scoring)

As long as Berglund still has any sort of influence over our drafting, he'll probably be looking intently at this guy. He's good at finding diamonds in the rough with Euro guys.
 
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