HAPPY BIRTHDAY! The Erik Gudbranson era is over!

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timbermen

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Ha, we've got the Elite League over here, the Nottingham Panthers are my local team, even got a few over the hill NHL'ers (Chris Stewart, former Canuck Alexandre Bolduc, Dylan Olsen, we also had Brian McGrattan for his last season before he retired)
Right on, i'm glad it''s getting big there. Wasn't it Nottingham that was doing great in that Championship? They combined the different leagues best teams, it was good hockey. Nottingham was an underdog but did well in the tourney. I have to admit, the only reason i was watching was for Växjö to see how Pettersson was doing but i love it when they underdogs make some noise in those tourney's.
 

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Right on, i'm glad it''s getting big there. Wasn't it Nottingham that was doing great in that Championship? They combined the different leagues best teams, it was good hockey. Nottingham was an underdog but did well in the tourney. I have to admit, the only reason i was watching was for Växjö to see how Pettersson was doing but i love it when they underdogs make some noise in those tourney's.
yeah, last season they qualified for the Champions League which is basically all the top European teams other than the KHL teams, so SHL, Liiga, Swiss, German etc and they were the first UK team to ever make the knock-out phase of the tournament after winning their group that contained TPS & SC Bern, they got absolutely stuffed 6-1 by ZSC Lions in the last 16 but it was an achievement to get there nonetheless, had the first ever UK trained player drafted this year too, so hopefully it can continue to grow popularity.
 

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I don't even quite understand Botchford's take. Better off on another team-- how? It's not like Gudbranson has been done in by a bad fit, lack of opportunity or the coach being biased against him. His problem isn't fit or environment, it's that he doesn't turn well, doesn't have good balance, doesn't have good awareness, doesn't handle or pass or shoot the puck well. Moving to a different NHL location isn't going to change those issues.

If I was a GM and Benning phoned me and said what'll you give me for Gudbranson if I eat half of his salary, my response: no, Jim what are YOU going to give ME in addition. Because even at $2M per year, in my opinion he's a liability rather than an asset. Maybe there's a sucker GM out there who feels differently; if there is, take advantage.


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I don't even quite understand Botchford's take. Better off on another team-- how? It's not like Gudbranson has been done in by a bad fit, lack of opportunity or the coach being biased against him. His problem isn't fit or environment, it's that he doesn't turn well, doesn't have good balance, doesn't have good awareness, doesn't handle or pass or shoot the puck well. Moving to a different NHL location isn't going to change those issues.

If I was a GM and Benning phoned me and said what'll you give me for Gudbranson if I eat half of his salary, my response: no, Jim what are YOU going to give ME in addition. Because even at $2M per year, in my opinion he's a liability rather than an asset. Maybe there's a sucker GM out there who feels differently; if there is, take advantage.
It fixes them for us.

And that's all I really care about.
 

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VANERIK GUDBRANSONDefense803:41564.18
OTTTHOMAS CHABOTDefense935:03563.59
FLAMIKE MATHESONDefense971:31553.40
OTTCODY CECIDefense1004:01563.35
FLAAARON EKBLADDefense1029:06573.32
N.JDAMON SEVERSONDefense1007:33553.28
MTLJEFF PETRYDefense979:04523.19
FLAKEITH YANDLEDefense961:23513.18
N.JANDY GREENEDefense961:32513.18
WSHDMITRY ORLOVDefense1079:18573.17
CBJZACH WERENSKIDefense967:02513.16
VANBEN HUTTONDefense990:32513.09
CBJSETH JONESDefense978:45493.01
CBJRYAN MURRAYDefense948:51472.97
EDMADAM LARSSONDefense1053:54522.96
PHIIVAN PROVOROVDefense1149:52562.92
EDMDARNELL NURSEDefense1072:22522.91
S.JBRENT BURNSDefense1074:25522.91
WSHMATT NISKANENDefense1009:46482.85
NSHROMAN JOSIDefense1112:36482.59
MINRYAN SUTERDefense1176:32482.45
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It's amazing.

On Twitter I called him the Goal Genie. Players on terrible teams who have played 200 more minutes than him haven't surrendered as many goals.
 
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TeamPlayerPosTOIGoalsGA60
VANERIK GUDBRANSONDefense803:41564.18
OTTTHOMAS CHABOTDefense935:03563.59
FLAMIKE MATHESONDefense971:31553.40
OTTCODY CECIDefense1004:01563.35
FLAAARON EKBLADDefense1029:06573.32
N.JDAMON SEVERSONDefense1007:33553.28
MTLJEFF PETRYDefense979:04523.19
FLAKEITH YANDLEDefense961:23513.18
N.JANDY GREENEDefense961:32513.18
WSHDMITRY ORLOVDefense1079:18573.17
CBJZACH WERENSKIDefense967:02513.16
PITJACK JOHNSONDefense901:05473.13
VANBEN HUTTONDefense990:32513.09
CBJSETH JONESDefense978:45493.00
EDMADAM LARSSONDefense1053:54522.96
PHIIVAN PROVOROVDefense1149:52562.92
EDMDARNELL NURSEDefense1072:22522.91
S.JBRENT BURNSDefense1074:25522.90
WSHMATT NISKANENDefense1009:46482.85
NSHROMAN JOSIDefense1112:36482.59
MINRYAN SUTERDefense1176:32482.45
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It's amazing.

On Twitter I called him the Goal Genie. Players on terrible teams who have played 200 more minutes than him haven't surrendered as many goals.
Whoa slow down there. That looks like too strong a dose of vitamins.
 
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yeah, last season they qualified for the Champions League which is basically all the top European teams other than the KHL teams, so SHL, Liiga, Swiss, German etc and they were the first UK team to ever make the knock-out phase of the tournament after winning their group that contained TPS & SC Bern, they got absolutely stuffed 6-1 by ZSC Lions in the last 16 but it was an achievement to get there nonetheless, had the first ever UK trained player drafted this year too, so hopefully it can continue to grow popularity.

Wait a minute, what about Tony Hand!!!???
 

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It's amazing.

On Twitter I called him the Goal Genie. Players on terrible teams who have played 200 more minutes than him haven't surrendered as many goals.



I want to see a Matheson-Gudbranson pairing.

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Also, I thought Gudbranson was full value for what he was supposed to be in the ANA game. I don't want that to get lost in this. That type of player has perceived value around the league. He just does. When he chooses not to engage physically, and tries to play the game straight up, is when I think he is at his weakest value point.

They should keep showing him tape of that ANA game.
 

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TeamPlayerPosTOIGoalsGA60
VANERIK GUDBRANSONDefense803:41564.18
OTTTHOMAS CHABOTDefense935:03563.59
FLAMIKE MATHESONDefense971:31553.40
OTTCODY CECIDefense1004:01563.35
FLAAARON EKBLADDefense1029:06573.32
N.JDAMON SEVERSONDefense1007:33553.28
MTLJEFF PETRYDefense979:04523.19
FLAKEITH YANDLEDefense961:23513.18
N.JANDY GREENEDefense961:32513.18
WSHDMITRY ORLOVDefense1079:18573.17
CBJZACH WERENSKIDefense967:02513.16
PITJACK JOHNSONDefense901:05473.13
VANBEN HUTTONDefense990:32513.09
CBJSETH JONESDefense978:45493.00
EDMADAM LARSSONDefense1053:54522.96
PHIIVAN PROVOROVDefense1149:52562.92
EDMDARNELL NURSEDefense1072:22522.91
S.JBRENT BURNSDefense1074:25522.90
WSHMATT NISKANENDefense1009:46482.85
NSHROMAN JOSIDefense1112:36482.59
MINRYAN SUTERDefense1176:32482.45
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It's amazing.

On Twitter I called him the Goal Genie. Players on terrible teams who have played 200 more minutes than him haven't surrendered as many goals.
What is this mumbo jumbo????
 

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VANERIK GUDBRANSONDefense803:41564.18
OTTTHOMAS CHABOTDefense935:03563.59
FLAMIKE MATHESONDefense971:31553.40
OTTCODY CECIDefense1004:01563.35
FLAAARON EKBLADDefense1029:06573.32
N.JDAMON SEVERSONDefense1007:33553.28
MTLJEFF PETRYDefense979:04523.19
FLAKEITH YANDLEDefense961:23513.18
N.JANDY GREENEDefense961:32513.18
WSHDMITRY ORLOVDefense1079:18573.17
CBJZACH WERENSKIDefense967:02513.16
VANBEN HUTTONDefense990:32513.09
CBJSETH JONESDefense978:45493.01
CBJRYAN MURRAYDefense948:51472.97
EDMADAM LARSSONDefense1053:54522.96
PHIIVAN PROVOROVDefense1149:52562.92
EDMDARNELL NURSEDefense1072:22522.91
S.JBRENT BURNSDefense1074:25522.91
WSHMATT NISKANENDefense1009:46482.85
NSHROMAN JOSIDefense1112:36482.59
MINRYAN SUTERDefense1176:32482.45
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It's amazing.

On Twitter I called him the Goal Genie. Players on terrible teams who have played 200 more minutes than him haven't surrendered as many goals.

Not that this is a surprise to anyone who has watched him for 3 regrettable seasons, but there is absolutely a case for him being the worst player in the NHL right now.
 

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I don't even quite understand Botchford's take. Better off on another team-- how? It's not like Gudbranson has been done in by a bad fit, lack of opportunity or the coach being biased against him. His problem isn't fit or environment, it's that he doesn't turn well, doesn't have good balance, doesn't have good awareness, doesn't handle or pass or shoot the puck well. Moving to a different NHL location isn't going to change those issues.

If I was a GM and Benning phoned me and said what'll you give me for Gudbranson if I eat half of his salary, my response: no, Jim what are YOU going to give ME in addition. Because even at $2M per year, in my opinion he's a liability rather than an asset. Maybe there's a sucker GM out there who feels differently; if there is, take advantage.

He actually made a sensible argument or two for a change, but just same old Botchford. On the one hand Gudbranson is a shit player, 100% waiver bait on a terrible contract. On the other hand we should expect to move him, and not for nothing insignificant if we "want to." There is a serious disconnect there.

I don't believe anyone wanted Gudbranson for much of anything LAST year, let alone this year or he would be gone by now. He has been terrible. He has zero or negative value. I believe we would be extremely lucky if we could find a deal for him without taking a loss.
 

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I want to see a Matheson-Gudbranson pairing.

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Also, I thought Gudbranson was full value for what he was supposed to be in the ANA game. I don't want that to get lost in this. That type of player has perceived value around the league. He just does. When he chooses not to engage physically, and tries to play the game straight up, is when I think he is at his weakest value point.

They should keep showing him tape of that ANA game.

I thought after the first rash of injuries he stepped up a bit, he just couldn't do it on any type of consistent basis. I wanted to believe for the meat and potatoes, but he just is slipping off the map all the time.

That is not to say that I agree with all this side stuff questioning his toughness and such though.
 

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He actually made a sensible argument or too for a change, but just same old Botchford. On the one hand Gudbranson is a **** player, 100% waiver bait on a terrible contract. On the other hand we should expect to move him, and not for nothing insignificant if we "want to." There is a serious disconnect there.

I don't believe anyone wanted Gudbranson for much of anything LAST year, let alone this year or he would be gone by now. He has been terrible. He has zero or negative value. I believe we would be extremely lucky if we could find a deal for him without taking a loss.

Wasn't there a rumour that Benning turned down a 2nd and a 4th for Gudbrandson last year?



Don't know how legitimate Botchford's sources are/were though.
 

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Hopefully he’s a healthy scratch against the Sharks and Brisebois gets paired with Schenn like in Utica.
 

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Wasn't there a rumour that Benning turned down a 2nd and a 4th for Gudbrandson last year?



Don't know how legitimate Botchford's sources are/were though.


Wow. I find that hard to believe, if true, Benning should be fired immediately. I’d have been happy giving up Gudbranson and a 6th for a 7th.
 
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