joshjull
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@theScoreNHL: Report: NHL to end draft pick compensation for teams that fire coach, GM http://t.co/mg4GToFswi http://t.co/AYuUPNuIxz
A little late
A little late
Confirmed with Link: The Coaching Search is Over! Sabres Hire Bylsma, Presser at 4PM
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Paxon
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Good that they fixed it at least. It's fair to expect compensation for a minor league coach or assistant but a guy you fired? They should have been on the ball with this rule to begin with. Kind of sad that they weren't because I bet if you asked most GM's they would've never wanted that part in the rule. It's my understanding that they approved a generic concept of compensation for staff poaching, then the league office worked up the specifics.
vcv
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NHL has changed rules and had them apply retroactively to transactions before (recapture rule). Little surprised they wouldn't do it again for this.
The whole point, as far as I can tell, was to give teams compensation if someone under contract moved to another organization to a higher position. That makes complete sense.
Why they didn't bake that into the language in the first place is so ridiculously idiotic.
Glad we could be the guinea pigs.
We weren't. Edmonton was with Chiarelli. That's the situation that tipped off Rutherford.
I suppose, but it still seems like more of a punch in the balls for us since Bylsma hadn't been working for anyone for an entire year.
dotcommunism
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Maybe the NHL could compensate the teams that lost draft picks under these provisions by granting them draft picks. Even getting a pick at the end of the third round would help. An untradable pick (like they gave out when they restored the first rounder to the Devils) would have value.
Headshot77
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Our bottom 6 is/was garbage after staal left. Two all star players, yes. Depth, no.
Woodhouse
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My concern remains that he doesn't understand that dump and chase is ********. That NHL.com article starts with him basically talking about justifying it by how much grind they put on the other team's d having to turn around. Great. Good for you. You know what I'll take over the added grind of a Dman having to turn around a few more times a game? A few more shots a game that I get from carrying the puck in.
"could have used a few more shots today...but boy did their guys look tired when they celebrated that win"
"could have used a few more shots today...but boy did their guys look tired when they celebrated that win"
I will say that I was not a fan of Bylsma going into this. But having read a lot of what he did over the last year, I have to say that I am interested to find out is he has in fact done the work, studied the advanced stats and changed his outlook on the game.
The dump and chase is my biggest concern.
The dump and chase is my biggest concern.
91Stammer*
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Leafs fan coming in peace. I think Bylsma is a good coach. He has achieved good things with average supportive players. He should do wonders for group as good as Buffalo's. I was looking forward to him and Boucher if we didn't get Babcock.
I've warmed up too...but I am concerned that he went searching for justification instead of solutions. IM not worried about how much grind we are putting on a defender in a 60 minute game...it's meaningless. Getting the added zone time and shots in those 60 minutes...are the opposite of meaningless. If he means over the coarse of a series...I mean...ok I see what you might mean...but I'll still take the puck. Spoiler: I'll always take the puck.
It will be interestling to watch. The team we've had...dump all you want they can't get it across the line anyway. But Eichel...man he is amongst the best I've seen carrying that thing in. Hopefully he isn't neutered for a system.
Most of the rest will take care of itself. The fact that he's already name dropped Larsson tells me he knows what hes looking at more than the last guy. Low bar obviously.
Chad Thundercock
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I've noted his few Larsson name drops, as well. Yeah, Bylsma is growing on me. He definitely doesn't seem like Marrone just doing lip service with stats, analysis, etc... Still don't think an NHL coach matters that much, but I'm at least confident he's not a stubborn old-school fool.
I'm kind of happy with him as our coach.
My gutfeeling with the "boooo's" from pens fans is hat they are right, bylsma wasn't perfect with them and has his downsides.
but:
He had time to change (pure speculation). He is still a young coach.
He made a good, competent impression on me during the winter special TV stuff (highly subjective).
He was at the only NHL game I ever went, Flyers against a Pens team on a winning streak in 2013 (what was it, 13 games in a row?). Pens lost but they played strong (with basically 2 good players).
I have high hopes for him being a great fit for Eichel, Reinhart and Girgs. No idea why.
My gutfeeling with the "boooo's" from pens fans is hat they are right, bylsma wasn't perfect with them and has his downsides.
but:
He had time to change (pure speculation). He is still a young coach.
He made a good, competent impression on me during the winter special TV stuff (highly subjective).
He was at the only NHL game I ever went, Flyers against a Pens team on a winning streak in 2013 (what was it, 13 games in a row?). Pens lost but they played strong (with basically 2 good players).
I have high hopes for him being a great fit for Eichel, Reinhart and Girgs. No idea why.
SackTastic
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^hopefully Bylsma doesn't even have to coach kaleta, unless his love of useless muckers perpetuates and he becomes the buffalo version of Craig Adams/Tanner Glass
Said he's on board with the youth movement though, I hope he sticks with murrays vision instead of just saying things and causing another disconnect between front office and team.
I have a feeling he wouldn't have taken this job if he wasn't going to rely on youth though, because as of now he has very little else to work with
Said he's on board with the youth movement though, I hope he sticks with murrays vision instead of just saying things and causing another disconnect between front office and team.
I have a feeling he wouldn't have taken this job if he wasn't going to rely on youth though, because as of now he has very little else to work with
Hipcheck13
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Bylsma's checklist for the off season:
-Resign Kaleta.
-Trade for Cooke.
-Further ruin Beau Bennett.
TalkingProuder
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Bylsma's checklist for the off season:
-Resign Kaleta.
-Trade for Cooke.
-Further ruin Beau Bennett.
Kaleta-McCormick-Bennett
Sabretip
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Good vibes from the combine today:
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/06/02/jack-eichel-on-interview-with-sabres-it-was-a-lot-of-fun/
All good stuff as it comes to dismissing the fear Eichel might not turn pro...knowing the coach in advance has to be a big comfort factor in him joining an NHL roster.
http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2015/06/02/jack-eichel-on-interview-with-sabres-it-was-a-lot-of-fun/
All good stuff as it comes to dismissing the fear Eichel might not turn pro...knowing the coach in advance has to be a big comfort factor in him joining an NHL roster.
Werent there quotes or soundbites from Eichel that one of the reasons he went to the WHC was to prove to himself he could play in the NHL next season against the competition?
Personally, I never believed for a second that Eichel would not be in the NHL next year, and especially not after his performance over there.
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