RussellmaniaKW
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The Bruins reluctance to try Spooner at wing has been moronic at best...
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They both need to take a seat. Fraser has been worse than Spooner.
Spooner is brutal along the boards and coughs up the puck by tring to force passes that end up on the opponents stic. His positioning is awful and instead of providing his linemates with support as they are mucking with the puck, he stands away from the play watching like a deer in the headlights.
He shows flashes and then on the next shift takes 2 steps back. He's inconsistent and after 3 games, is no longer acceptable.
He's a liability in all 3 zones as is Fraser.
BergyWho37
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They way you talk, Spooners a minus 8 in 3 games or it's simply cause he doesn't have 6pts
-1 is hardly liability, Yeti has 2 assist but -2
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Yes he was, blame a kid for veterans not bringing intensity and Fraser doesn't even look like he's on the ice but that's Spooners fault
Are you his brother or something?
To me, Spooner and Fraser could get carried by a good line right now, if not for the long term, for a short period. But, playing two AHLer on the same line and asking anything of them is crazy.
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I think this team is going to seriously regret signing Gagne. Which will most likely happen. He's far from the answer. We need a legit scoring talent in the league. And I honestly can not think of any that would be available. Chiarelli is screwed at the moment.
Yeah......I think it's going to click for Spooner.....it took krejci a while to get going when he came up and was very sinmilar to Spooner (tear up AHL while the offense is slow to come in NHL).....I really think Spooner will produce especially if given powerplay time and then he will become a consistent contributor. YOU CAN SEE THE SKILL SET IS THERE.....it just takes time with some guys.
I would really like to see Khoko or Griffith get a chance.
Also - I think you see Joe Morrow up here this year.....he could be a powerplay asset from the point.
ElkabombKid9
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Couldn't agree more with this Chia's favorite adjective when it comes to describing players is in fact "thick" . Obviously coach and GM have to be on the same page as far as what type of players they ice. Claude's disdain for Spooner is more than obvious, and unless they don't re-sign Soda at the end of the year there just isn't room for the kid. So if your not going to give him a legit shot on wing use him as an asset in a trade to go get a RW. This organization baffles me... Let him go put up 50 60 pts with another team. I can't wait to make a thread in 10 years of the offensive talent shipped off for s&#*, because Clode the guru didn't like them.
ODAAT
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Claude has "disdain" for Spooner???
It`s not like the kid is being buried with 4th line minutes, didn`t watch last night but I did look at the TOI and he`s pretty much right there with the rest of the "top" 3 lines plus over 3 mins on the PP
Excellent skills, excellent wheels but IMO, he`s not close to being able to replace what this team has up the middle in any of the current top 3 centermen and I`m not sure his game translates along the wall
Then again, NOBODY`s game, at this exact moment is translating into much
Interested in the comment by BadBruins about the teams "infactuation with heavy/thick wingers"
Marchand/Smitty/Kelly/Fraser/Loui.........interesting way of fulfilling an infactuation
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RedeyeRocketeer
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This has been my observation too, and it's the main reason why Claude can't trust him yet.
There's a reason why nobody respected really uses +- to prove a point on this kind of thing, and you're laying it out perfectly. He can be having issues at either end of the ice without it needing to show up on the scoreboard just yet.
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Gagne doesn't have anything to do with what is going on right now. It's the players on the ice. Gagne is going to be short money anyway.
When you listen to Chiarelli speak he often references thickness and weight when it comes to wingers. He used it to describe both Gagne and Satan for example, so it's not about toughness or banging. Eriksson is 6-2 200lbs. Fraser 6-2 205. Kelly 6-0 200lbs. Paille 6-1 200 lbs. I can go on. Marchand and Smith are the outliers (though you can argue Marchand for his height is considered thick). If you believe rumors, the Bruins also wanted Chiasson in the Seguin deal, settled on Smith. There's also the never ending love affair with Jordan Caron and his frame (6-2 205). Spooner is fighting an up hill battle at 180lbs and I think that's been part of the reluctance to use him on the wing. Bottom line is he needs to produce.
This is not a bad thing. It does lack diversity though. That's what I see now. A lot of guys who can win battles, but cannot win foot races. Some of these "thick" players can't do either (Caron/Fraser).
I'd keep Spooner in the lineup just simply for the need of offense, not only tomorrow..but through the entire season. Of course there will be growing pains. Lighting up the AHL won't fix that.
You cannot stomp your feet telling everyone its just three games and they're foolish for overreacting in one thread and write the book on someone in another IMO.
It's either NHL or trade at this point. It benefits no one for him to put up PPG against the Lashoffs of the world.
You cannot stomp your feet telling everyone its just three games and they're foolish for overreacting in one thread and write the book on someone in another IMO.
It's either NHL or trade at this point. It benefits no one for him to put up PPG against the Lashoffs of the world.
KuralySnipes
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Unpopular opinion, but Spooner has looked terrible in a lot of his games up in the NHL during the regular season, especially over the past 3 games.
I would have liked to see the kids play better.
But I would also argue putting two rookies on a line with Lucic playing terrible isn't really putting them in the best position to succeed....
That line wasn't working from the first game and went unchanged. I think Julien was tying to prove a point here and I don't like it....
But I would also argue putting two rookies on a line with Lucic playing terrible isn't really putting them in the best position to succeed....
That line wasn't working from the first game and went unchanged. I think Julien was tying to prove a point here and I don't like it....
BergyWho37
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Thanks Brian this is exactly what I think too, hate the idea of trading cause I'm bias here but rather let this kid have his career elsewhere then treat him like he's not wanted.
Not calling him a saviour but PP specialist, Speed, Hands, Passing all things we can use, sure we ultimately need a pure scorer but that's a given
So we put Spooner with an AHLer and a disinterested Lucic, for all of 3 games, while the team collectively blows, and we already reached the conclusion that he is not good enough to be on the team?
And I thought I was prone to knee-jerk reactions!
And I thought I was prone to knee-jerk reactions!
Lucic has looked just as bad as Spooner.. So lets stop putting Spooner under the bus... there is just no chemistry there.
I have said this time and time again... With the players we had at training camp, Lucic needs to play with Soderberg and Eriksson. The lines should be like this..
Lucic Soderberg Eriksson
Marchand Bergeron Griffith
Spooner Krejci Smith
Paille Kelly Knight
Robins
Koko
Campbell
I have said this time and time again... With the players we had at training camp, Lucic needs to play with Soderberg and Eriksson. The lines should be like this..
Lucic Soderberg Eriksson
Marchand Bergeron Griffith
Spooner Krejci Smith
Paille Kelly Knight
Robins
Koko
Campbell
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KnightofBoston
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If anything I just scratch spooner and let him watch from above, he needs to stay with NHL players and keep at it. Not play more in the AHL
The team has sucked as a whole, and he's far from the problem. In fact, once he catches on, he's going to making this team more dangerous.
I'm fine with him going in a package for a star RW or someone we all could have a lot of faith in becoming for this Bruins team
One of the reasons I don't sign gagne...just more dead cap space that makes it hard to get the real players
The team has sucked as a whole, and he's far from the problem. In fact, once he catches on, he's going to making this team more dangerous.
I'm fine with him going in a package for a star RW or someone we all could have a lot of faith in becoming for this Bruins team
One of the reasons I don't sign gagne...just more dead cap space that makes it hard to get the real players
CombatOnContact
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I think a lot of posters are seriously over-valuing Spooner. Trading him for an impact winger will take a whole lot more than him to get it done. None of our current Ahlers ( save Pasternack) would fetch much in return. We have a serious conundrum here.
KnightofBoston
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Eriksson Spooner and a pick definitely could, and I'd be fine with moving all that as long as it was a RH shot that could fit here and pot 25-30 goals with Krejci
