The Vasili Jerry
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Some of the dumbest reasoning ever. When it’s the reasoning in literally the same week as Tom Wilson only getting a fine for what he did it becomes mind boggling.
Player Discussion The Big Fella: Zack MacEwen (MAY 7 - Suspended 1 game)
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Deserved a game in my opinion. Unnecessary play.
I really didn't like Nurse's takedown from the fight. I'm really surprised it didn't get a look.
My guess is the Oilers petitioned the league, and Jim/John were too busy playing with an abacus to proactively contact the league protecting their players.
I really didn't like Nurse's takedown from the fight. I'm really surprised it didn't get a look.
My guess is the Oilers petitioned the league, and Jim/John were too busy playing with an abacus to proactively contact the league protecting their players.
Hoglander
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What frustrates me so much (and clearly those who have read the thread know I'm frustrated) is that the intent that MacEwen had happens all the time during a game. I have no doubt that MacEwen intentionally stuck his knee out and contacted Nurse. But it was clearly meant to annoy Nurse not to injure him. It was gamesmanship. It was getting under the other guy's skin. Burrows was a master at this. Sometimes it warrants an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. And maybe that's what MacEwen should have received.
But to elevate this to a suspendable offense is absolutely mind boggling. Hamonic should have been suspended for his shoulder to the head of the Edmonton player last night. Nurse MMAing MacEwen during the fight should have warranted a review. But annoying a player on the opposite team? Really? I'm not sure what to say about the discernment of the NHL executive. This is absurd.
(thanks for letting me vent....it's always easier to do responding to a post rather than cold posting
).Obviously Bettman and the NHL are going to revamp their department of player safety at the end of the season.
Teams out West can get screwed by the rulings all the time, but when the New York Rangers complain it's like the old E.F. Hutton ad---when the Rangers talk, people listen.
Teams out West can get screwed by the rulings all the time, but when the New York Rangers complain it's like the old E.F. Hutton ad---when the Rangers talk, people listen.
The NHL's old Wheel of Justice. Another seemingly nonsense punishment.
I don't have any issue with suspending Mac. But it's not really consistent with other rulings. Worse things get lesser punishments.
I don't have any issue with suspending Mac. But it's not really consistent with other rulings. Worse things get lesser punishments.
Blue and Green
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One game is fine for what MacEwen did, but Wilson can punch a completely defenceless Buchevnich-- who was prone on the ice and had done nothing to provoke Wilson-- and get away without a suspension?
andyJH
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That was not 1/10 as dirty or dangerous as the MMA slam Nurse threw when he didn’t like that he was getting his ass kicked in a fight.
Intangibos
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Not really intent to injure and he didn't exactly drive his knee in, but it's a dangerous play where he could accidentally deliver more force than intended. I don't think Bertuzzi was planning on 1 punch KOing Moore and having him fall head first into the ice, but that's why we can't tolerate people making dangerous plays like a sucker punch. MacEwen should know better than to even risk making knee-on-head contact, so a 1 game suspension is appropriate, if not generous.
I'm not sure what the rules are on takedowns in fights. They happen all the time so I don't know if there are legal and illegal ways to take someone down in a fight in the NHL. While Nurse's takedown was seemingly dangerous, I would be surprised if there is a rule specifically prohibiting what Nurse did.
I'm not sure what the rules are on takedowns in fights. They happen all the time so I don't know if there are legal and illegal ways to take someone down in a fight in the NHL. While Nurse's takedown was seemingly dangerous, I would be surprised if there is a rule specifically prohibiting what Nurse did.
David Bruce Banner
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Well, I for one look forward to a long and entertaining Nurse/MacEwen feud... with lots of opportunities for Big Mac to beat Nurse down.
It might not last as long as you think. Based on his usage this season, the Canucks don't seem to value him that highly.
And if I read the expansion rules correctly, he'll have to be protected if the Canucks want to keep him. So there's a chance he renews his rivalry with Nurse as a member of the Seattle Kraken.
David Bruce Banner
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Maybe the Kraken will pass on him due to his lack of visibility this season.
Besides, my sad bet is that, if we're outside the top 5, Benning gives up our 1st for the Kraken to take Eriksson.
Yup. Pretty obvious motion there. Now he's a repeat offender. Naturally he's a hero in Vancouver now...
Nucker101
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Another spin the wheel suspension, sad.
I like ZMac, he’s what you want on your 4th line in today’s league. Big, physical, can skate, has good enough offensive ability, willing to drop the gloves and most of all he’s cheap.
Imagine how much money you could spend on your dmen and top 9 forwards if you had 4 guys like him as your 10-14th forwards on the roster instead of the overpaid intangibles Benning has wasted cap on.
I like ZMac, he’s what you want on your 4th line in today’s league. Big, physical, can skate, has good enough offensive ability, willing to drop the gloves and most of all he’s cheap.
Imagine how much money you could spend on your dmen and top 9 forwards if you had 4 guys like him as your 10-14th forwards on the roster instead of the overpaid intangibles Benning has wasted cap on.
One of the ironies about this season, is that when it comes to their bottom six, the Canucks might actually have finally gotten it right almost by accident.
Guys like MacEwan, Boyd, Vesey, Hawryluk, Michaelis, Highmore and Motte are all energy guys who come in at exactly price point you need f0r
third and fourth liners. The fact that half of them arrived via the waiver wire doesn't diminish their value.
Sadly, the Canucks still have Beagle, Sutter, Eriksson, Roussel and Virtanen lurking in wings with a combined cap hit of close to $20m a season.....and I guess it's inevitable they'll all them will be back eventually.
But it really underscores how badly the Canucks have butchered the salary cap for bottom of the roster players.
Guys like MacEwan, Boyd, Vesey, Hawryluk, Michaelis, Highmore and Motte are all energy guys who come in at exactly price point you need f0r
third and fourth liners. The fact that half of them arrived via the waiver wire doesn't diminish their value.
Sadly, the Canucks still have Beagle, Sutter, Eriksson, Roussel and Virtanen lurking in wings with a combined cap hit of close to $20m a season.....and I guess it's inevitable they'll all them will be back eventually.
But it really underscores how badly the Canucks have butchered the salary cap for bottom of the roster players.
My guess is that they figured the fight was consensual (and takedowns happen in fights) whereas Nurse was on the ice in a vulnerable position unable to defend himself.
