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It was dumb and you should be ashamed of yourself IMHO.See that’s something that makes perfect sense for us and Chicago with tweaking. My original proposal was dumb until I edited it
It was dumb and you should be ashamed of yourself IMHO.See that’s something that makes perfect sense for us and Chicago with tweaking. My original proposal was dumb until I edited it
Pretty interesting stuff.So I've been thinking a lot about finding 'the next Nate Schmidt' ie a guy who the "analytics community" knows is good, but the "traditional" hockey world hasn't really picked up on yet because he plays on his team's third pairing. I ran my similarity model on him for the 1617 year... top comparables:
1. Schultz - 1617
2. Shattenkirk - 1415
3. Jurcina - 0910
4. Wideman - 0809
5. Hickey - 1314
6. Kindl - 1213
7. Jensen - 1617
8. Franson - 1112
9. Babchuk - 0809
10. Stuart - 0809
Not bad company.
Effective use of something like this could be to then run Nate Schmidt this year, and see if any "low-key" names pop. Running that, I'm eyeballing Jan Rutta. So if we're trading for Saad, let's make CHI throw him in, too, even though it sort of feels like he didn't have the most impressive season.
Ah, **** it, just sign Franson.
Use Colin Miller from 1617 and Pesce from 1516 if you can, please and thank youSo I've been thinking a lot about finding 'the next Nate Schmidt' ie a guy who the "analytics community" knows is good, but the "traditional" hockey world hasn't really picked up on yet because he plays on his team's third pairing. I ran my similarity model on him for the 1617 year... top comparables:
1. Schultz - 1617
2. Shattenkirk - 1415
3. Jurcina - 0910
4. Wideman - 0809
5. Hickey - 1314
6. Kindl - 1213
7. Jensen - 1617
8. Franson - 1112
9. Babchuk - 0809
10. Stuart - 0809
Not bad company.
Effective use of something like this could be to then run Nate Schmidt this year, and see if any "low-key" names pop. Running that, I'm eyeballing Jan Rutta. So if we're trading for Saad, let's make CHI throw him in, too, even though it sort of feels like he didn't have the most impressive season.
Ah, **** it, just sign Franson.
Top five for each:Use Colin Miller from 1617 and Pesce from 1516 if you can, please and thank you
Yeah we’ve had some discussions on here about Heed.Tim Heed is the next defenseman that blows up after having strong analytics and getting buried by a questionable coaching staff. His treatment by Peter DeBoer and the Sharks coaching staff this year was incredibly strange and didn’t really make much of any sense at all. He will probably get traded this summer for some minimally valuable asset and will be fantastic for the next team that acquires him.
I like you.Tim Heed is the next defenseman that blows up after having strong analytics and getting buried by a questionable coaching staff. His treatment by Peter DeBoer and the Sharks coaching staff this year was incredibly strange and didn’t really make much of any sense at all. He will probably get traded this summer for some minimally valuable asset and will be fantastic for the next team that acquires him.
Yeah we’ve had some discussions on here about Heed.
Would love to be the team that scoops him up.
I like you.
Tim Heed is the next defenseman that blows up after having strong analytics and getting buried by a questionable coaching staff. His treatment by Peter DeBoer and the Sharks coaching staff this year was incredibly strange and didn’t really make much of any sense at all. He will probably get traded this summer for some minimally valuable asset and will be fantastic for the next team that acquires him.
It's silverfish gorilla math that uses these metrics: p/60, iCF60, ixGF60, relTCF/A60, relTxGF/A60, relxFSh/Sv, TOI/GP, relZSr, xGFQoT/C to try and establish a list of players that are similar to one player you are evaluating.Silverfish, what is the 'model' you are referring to, or at least what metrics does it take into account?
Sorry if you've explained it before, I went looking back through the thread but couldn't find anything.
Thanks!
You're welcome any time!Joakim Ryan is another guy who is downright fantastic, but he probably stays. His WOWYs with Brent Burns are laughably hilarious to the degree you’d almost think they were a glitch or an error in the number counting if you didn’t know better.
I’m glad! HFSharks is a lot of fun but not always the most active and we’re obviously super biased towards most players. I like this thread a lot.
While we’re talking Sharks D; Marc-Edouard Vlasic and Justin Braun are totally cooked and the Sharks should trade both immediately while they still have a strong reputation.
The problem for Heed is opportunity. Burns takes so much of the ice time Heed needs to get to optimize his game.
Silverfish- Schmidt was always very impressing in Washington, many of the names on that compareable lists are pretty awful IMO, Franson for example.
I think the big problem is that teams aren’t moving these younger players. They hang on to them, miss use them and what not — but I recon they are smart enough to understand that trading them might look whoever pulling the trigger less than great.
I've been pumping Heed here for a while. I was miserable when I realized he had another year on his contract.The thing is, I actually don’t think that San Jose will keep Heed. Their treatment of him was very, very strange.
He started off playing like 25 of the first 30-35 games. Then, he was replaced by Dylan DeMelo, and literally only played 2 more games in the season; he was benched by the 2nd period of both games.
I guess this is more 'spec' thread or 'around the nhl' (which is why I think we still need to rename this thread something more along the lines of like: "Advanced Stats, Hockey Theory, and Hockey Economics", but I digress) but I believe so many GMs ****ed up expansion.No, YOU’VE watched Colin Miller’s first goal last night five times and have grumbled at what could have been.
See the main issue is that those two were viewed as expendable, and that’s the problem in of itself. How/why are talented players like that being used in lesser roles when they’re obviously outperforming them?I guess this is more 'spec' thread or 'around the nhl' (which is why I think we still need to rename this thread something more along the lines of like: "Advanced Stats, Hockey Theory, and Hockey Economics", but I digress) but I believe so many GMs ****ed up expansion.
If I was a GM last June, I'd have scoured other teams' lists and gotten my hands on players cheap.
Hey, Boston, want to lose Colin Miller for free? Of course not. Here's a b-level prospect you won't have to protect so you get something instead of nothing for him.
Hey Washington, want to lose Nate Schmidt for free? Of course not. Here's a b-level prospect you won't have to protect so you get something instead of nothing for him.
To prep for this, you buy-out Staal and free up his slot, and expose Nick Holden.
McDonagh - Miller
Skjei - Shattenkirk
Smith - Schmidt
oh my ****ing god.