The 2022 NHL Draft Thread v2

[Prestigeworldwide]

Scouching still has him Number 2 overall above Cooley. It will be interesting to see how he wraps up the rest of the season in a different system. Having a 3rd solid center pick in this draft would help alot, not totally sold on Savoie.

 

[Prestigeworldwide]

Sounds like he is going back to Liiga Pelicans for playoffs.

 

[rt]

Reports out of Slovakia have Nemec becoming a dominant player since his return from the WJC. I’m becoming more and more open to just picking him third or fourth, if that’s where we end up. I like the idea of him in Tucson next season. Especially while we still have that coaching staff together for another year (hopefully). I couldn’t be happier with what they’ve done with Mayo, Dineen, JJM, and Kolyachonok, etc.

 

[moosemeister]

Reports out of Slovakia have Nemec becoming a dominant player since his return from the WJC. I’m becoming more and more open to just picking him third or fourth, if that’s where we end up. I like the idea of him in Tucson next season. Especially while we still have that coaching staff together for another year (hopefully). I couldn’t be happier with what they’ve done with Mayo, Dineen, JJM, and Kolyachonok, etc.

Absolutely fine with one of Nemec, Kemmell, Jiricek. I think Jiricek has higher upside than Nemec but I do think Nemec has a better chance at being a great NHL player.

Would be stoked if it's Nemec or Jiricek and they play in Tucson next year.

 

[hbk]

Reports out of Slovakia have Nemec becoming a dominant player since his return from the WJC. I’m becoming more and more open to just picking him third or fourth, if that’s where we end up. I like the idea of him in Tucson next season. Especially while we still have that coaching staff together for another year (hopefully). I couldn’t be happier with what they’ve done with Mayo, Dineen, JJM, and Kolyachonok, etc.

When reports first started about Chychrun I immediately thought that they must like someone in the draft.

 

[Prestigeworldwide]

All-American game starts in a bit, Gonna have to flip between this and the Yotes game. Looking forward to seeing Cooley again.

 

[Mosby]

Dan Marr explains why Shane Wright is still No. 1

From the Point: NHL Central Scouting Director Dan Marr – CHL

 

[rt]

I’m predicting a big rise from Gauthier and Pickering, with big drops from Miroshnichenko and Salomonsson.

 

[Gwyddbwyll]

Good to see a 96 player list - was a bit disappointed they only ranked the top 16 before.

Hoping to see some tiers emerge here, I kinda have a top 4 then 3 then it starts getting messy after that.

 

[Gwyddbwyll]

Ignore this post - had clicked into Button's list.

 

[rt]

Here’s the list:

Wright leaves door open atop TSN's mid-season draft rankings - TSN.ca

I’m pleased to see that NHL scouts agree with me on Cutter Gauthier and have rocketed him up the list. Also that they clearly dislike David Goyette (like me) and clearly really like Liam Arnsby (as I do).

 

[rt]

Bobby Mac has 1-5 like this:

1. Wright
2. Cooley
3. Kemmel
4. Savoie
5. Slafkovsky

^ I’m hoping for one of Wright, Savoie or Cooley with our first pick.

To me, the REAL VALUE in this draft is right in the range where our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th picks land, presently.

Guys I REALLY like in this range:

26. McGroarty
27. Hughes
29. Mateychuk
34. Nelson
35. Bichsel
36. Pickering
37. Del Bel Belluz
39. Beck
40. Kulich
44. Casey

That’s 10 names. HALF the guys listed in that range that I’d love to add to the team. And we’ve got SEVEN picks in there. This is incredible to me. Extremely exciting.

 

[rt]

These quotes are very relevant for our picks 2-8 in this draft. We could end up grabbing a bunch of guys we have way higher on our list:

Multiple players outside TSN’s top 11 got some consideration as top 10 picks. That group includes: No. 12-ranked Swedish winger Jonathan Lekkerimaki; No. 13-ranked U.S. U18 centre Cutter Gauthier; No. 16-ranked Saginaw Spirit defenceman Pavel Mintyukov; No. 17-ranked Austrian forward Marco Kasper; and No. 35-ranked Swiss defenceman Lian Bichsel.

Mintyukov, the Russian defenceman playing in Saginaw, is emerging as a red-hot commodity and rising draft star. He had three Top 10 votes, including one in the top five, but also had seven votes at No. 20 or lower.

— If there is a bevy of prospects between 11 and 32 who are excellent candidates to break into the Top 10, there are multiple prospects ranked in TSN’s second round (Nos. 33 to 64) who could push their way well into the first round.

That list includes: No. 3-ranked North Bay Battalion defenceman Ty Nelson; No. 36-ranked Swift Current Bronco blueliner Owen Pickering and No. 37-ranked Mississauga Steelhead forward Luca Del Bel Belluz, who aside from having one of the best handles in this draft is rocketing up the draft charts.

 

[Gwyddbwyll]

The scouts continue to love Miroshnichenko and Lambert keeping them high up.

This surprises me the most:

Nemec may be another poster boy for the wide divergence of opinion this year on top 10 prospects. Four of 10 scouts had Nemec in their top 5 but four also had him just outside their top 10.

Happy to read this:

The prognosis is Jiricek will be out two to three months, but at this point scouts don’t seem overly concerned about the injury negatively impacting his draft status.

I'm kinda leaning towards taking either Nemec or Jiricek with our first pick these days.

 

[rt]

The story at the top appears to be lack of consensus outside of the top two. Nemec ends up No.9 but 4 scouts had him Top5 and four had him outside the Top10.

Miroshnichenko was ranked as high as 1st overall by one scout and outside the 1st round by others. Lands at No.6 by average not by consensus.

That seems like the story of the top 5, or even top 10. Lots of variance.

 

[rt]

When reports first started about Chychrun I immediately thought that they must like someone in the draft.

Well, some teams LOVE him (Top5) and some teams only LIKE him (outside Top10) and it seems to be a 50/50 split. Maybe the Yotes know that they love Nemec and not everyone does and they’re confident they can get him anywhere in the Top5 right now.

 

[lanky]

Interesting that hockeyprospect.com is alone on an island with their ranking of Pickering.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

At this point, I want Cooley and hope that bastard grows to 5'11 at least.

He has 2 brothers
23yr old at 5'9''
21yr old at 6'1''

Let's hope since he's already at 5'10, that he gets closer to the 6'1'' if we happen to get to pick him.

 

[Sm00chy]

The story at the top appears to be lack of consensus outside of the top two. Nemec ends up No.9 but 4 scouts had him Top5 and four had him outside the Top10.

Miroshnichenko was ranked as high as 1st overall by one scout and outside the 1st round by others. Lands at No.6 by average not by consensus.

That seems like the story of the top 5, or even top 10. Lots of variance.

This makes me want to trade Chychrun to CBJ for a package including 1 or both of their 1st rounders....

 

[Prestigeworldwide]

At this point, I want Cooley and hope that bastard grows to 5'11 at least.

He has 2 brothers
23yr old at 5'9''
21yr old at 6'1''

Let's hope since he's already at 5'10, that he gets closer to the 6'1'' if we happen to get to pick him.

I really like Cooley. Solid in all zones, great skater that gets up to speed quickly. Creative offensive upside and seems comfortable with the puck.
He looked bigger than his listed size at the All-American game. Even plays physical, he dumped Rutger Mcgroarty on his ass along the boards once. Just fun to watch.

 

[AZviaNJ]

TSN/McKenzie Mid Season rankings released today:

1 Shane Wright Kingston (OHL)
2 Logan Cooley USA U-18 (USHL)
3 Joakim Kemell JYP (SM Liiga)
4 Matt Savoie Winnipeg (WHL)
5 Juraj Slafkovsky TPS (SM Liiga Jr.)
6 Ivan Miroshnichenko Omsk (VHL)
7 David Jiricek Plzen (CZE)
8 Danila Yurov Magnitogorsk (MHL)
9 Simon Nemec Nitra (SVK)
10 Conor Geekie Winnipeg (WHL)
11 Brad Lambert Lahti (SM Liiga)
12 Jonathan Lakkerimaki Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
13 Cutter Gauthier USA U-18 (USHL)
14 Frank Nazar USA U-18 (USHL)
15 Isaac Howard USA U-18 (USHL)
16 Pavel Mintyukov Saginaw (OHL)
17 Marco Kasper Rögle (SHL)
18 Ryan Chesley USA U-18 (USHL)
19 Jimmy Snuggerud USA U-18 (USHL)
20 Nathan Gaucher Quebec (QMJHL)
21 Tristan Luneau Gatineau (QMJHL)
22 Filip Mesar Poprad (SVK)
23 Liam Öhgren Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
24 Alexander Perevalov Yaroslavl (MHL)
25 Kevin Korchinski Seattle (WHL)
26 Rutger McGroarty USA U-18 (USHL)
27 Jack Hughes Northeastern (NCAA)
28 Maverick Lamoreux Drummondville (QMJHL)
29 Denton Mateychuk Moose Jaw (WHL)
30 Matyas Sapovaliv Saginaw (OHL)
31 Danny Zhilkin Guelph (OHL)
32 Adam Ingram Youngtown (USHL)

33 Elias Salomonsson Skellefteå (SWE J-20)
34 Ty Nelson North Bay (OHL)
35 Lian Bichsel Leksands (SWE J-20)
36 Owen Pickering Swift Current (WHL)
37 Luca Del Bel Belluz Mississauga (OHL)
38 Calle Odelius Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
39 Owen Beck Mississauga (OHL)
40 Jiří Kulich Karlovy (CZE)
41 Matthew Poitras Guelph (OHL)
42 Paul Ludwinski Kingston (OHL)
43 Bryce McConnell-Barker Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
44 Seamus Casey USA U-18 (USHL)
45 Filip Bystedt Linköping (SWE J-20)
46 Mats Lindgren Kamloops (WHL)
47 Sam Rinzel Chaska High (USHS)
48 Devin Kaplan USA U-18 (USHL)
49 Jani Nyman KOOVEE (Mestis)
50 Jorian Donovan Hamilton (OHL)
51 Noah Ostlund Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
52 Rieger Lorenz Okotoks (AJHL)
53 Fraser Minten Kamloops (WHL)
54 Tomas Hamara Tappara (SM Liiga Jr.)
55 Isaiah George London (OHL)
56 Ryan Greene Green Bay (USHL)
57 Topi Ronni Tappara (SM Liiga Jr.)
58 Michael Buchinger Guelph (OHL)
59 Noah Warren Gatineau (QMJHL)
60 Hunter Haight Barrie (OHL)
61 Ruslan Gazizov London (OHL)
62 Tyler Brennan Prince George (WHL)
63 Aleksanteri Kaskimaki HIFK (SM Liiga Jr.)
64 Gleb Trikozov Omsk (MHL)

65 Alexander Suzdalev HV 71 (SWE J-20)
66 Otto Salin HIFK (SM Liiga Jr.)
67 Jordan Gustafson Seattle (WHL)
68 Cameron Lund Green Bay (USHL)
69 Matt Seminoff Kamloops (WHL)
70 Artyom Duda Moskva (MHL)
71 Kirill Dolzhenkov Moskva (MHL)
72 Lane Hutson USA U-18 (USHL)
73 Cruz Lucius USA U-18 (USHL)
74 Pano Fimis Niagara (OHL)
75 Spencer Sova Erie (OHL)
76 Mattias Havelid Linkoping (SWE J-20)
77 Simon Forsmark Orebro (SWE J-20)
78 Marek Hejduk USA U-18 (USHL)
79 Reid Schaefer Seattle (WHL)
80 Vinzenz Rohrer Ottawa (OHL)

HM Brennan Ali Lincoln (USHL)
HM Liam Arnsby North Bay (OHL)
HM Angus Booth Shawinigan (QMJHL)
HM Jack Devine Denver (NCAA)
HM Lucas Edmonds Kingston (OHL)
HM Jackson Edward London (OHL)
HM Jagger Firkus Moose Jaw (WHL)
HM David Goyette Sudbury (OHL)
HM Vladimir Grudinin Moskva (MHL)
HM Gavin Hayes Flint (OHL)
HM Arseni Koromyslov St. Petersburg (MHL)
HM Julian Lutz München (DEL)
HM Miko Matikka Jokerit (SM Liiga Jr.)
HM Viktor Neuchev Yekaterinburg (MHL)
HM Colton Smith London (OHL)
HM Cole Spicer USA U-18 (USHL)

 

[Prestigeworldwide]

Well, some teams LOVE him (Top5) and some teams only LIKE him (outside Top10) and it seems to be a 50/50 split. Maybe the Yotes know that they love Nemec and not everyone does and they’re confident they can get him anywhere in the Top5 right now.

I've heard some analytic issues with Nemec(scouching). Like really bad defensively. He still has him i think at 9 though.

 

[hbk]

Interesting that hockeyprospect.com is alone on an island with their ranking of Pickering.

I have Pickering as one of those guys we should be targeting (especially if we go forward with our first pick) at end of first/early 2nd.

 

[Prestigeworldwide]

I have Pickering as one of those guys we should be targeting (especially if we go forward with our first pick) at end of first/early 2nd.

Yeah, if he and Odelious fall to the 2nd that would be great for us.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

TSN/McKenzie Mid Season rankings released today:

1 Shane Wright Kingston (OHL)
2 Logan Cooley USA U-18 (USHL)
3 Joakim Kemell JYP (SM Liiga)
4 Matt Savoie Winnipeg (WHL)
5 Juraj Slafkovsky TPS (SM Liiga Jr.)
6 Ivan Miroshnichenko Omsk (VHL)
7 David Jiricek Plzen (CZE)
8 Danila Yurov Magnitogorsk (MHL)
9 Simon Nemec Nitra (SVK)
10 Conor Geekie Winnipeg (WHL)
11 Brad Lambert Lahti (SM Liiga)
12 Jonathan Lakkerimaki Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
13 Cutter Gauthier USA U-18 (USHL)
14 Frank Nazar USA U-18 (USHL)
15 Isaac Howard USA U-18 (USHL)
16 Pavel Mintyukov Saginaw (OHL)
17 Marco Kasper Rögle (SHL)
18 Ryan Chesley USA U-18 (USHL)
19 Jimmy Snuggerud USA U-18 (USHL)
20 Nathan Gaucher Quebec (QMJHL)
21 Tristan Luneau Gatineau (QMJHL)
22 Filip Mesar Poprad (SVK)
23 Liam Öhgren Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
24 Alexander Perevalov Yaroslavl (MHL)
25 Kevin Korchinski Seattle (WHL)
26 Rutger McGroarty USA U-18 (USHL)
27 Jack Hughes Northeastern (NCAA)
28 Maverick Lamoreux Drummondville (QMJHL)
29 Denton Mateychuk Moose Jaw (WHL)
30 Matyas Sapovaliv Saginaw (OHL)
31 Danny Zhilkin Guelph (OHL)
32 Adam Ingram Youngtown (USHL)

33 Elias Salomonsson Skellefteå (SWE J-20)
34 Ty Nelson North Bay (OHL)
35 Lian Bichsel Leksands (SWE J-20)
36 Owen Pickering Swift Current (WHL)
37 Luca Del Bel Belluz Mississauga (OHL)
38 Calle Odelius Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
39 Owen Beck Mississauga (OHL)
40 Jiří Kulich Karlovy (CZE)
41 Matthew Poitras Guelph (OHL)
42 Paul Ludwinski Kingston (OHL)
43 Bryce McConnell-Barker Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
44 Seamus Casey USA U-18 (USHL)
45 Filip Bystedt Linköping (SWE J-20)
46 Mats Lindgren Kamloops (WHL)
47 Sam Rinzel Chaska High (USHS)
48 Devin Kaplan USA U-18 (USHL)
49 Jani Nyman KOOVEE (Mestis)
50 Jorian Donovan Hamilton (OHL)
51 Noah Ostlund Djurgardens (SWE J-20)
52 Rieger Lorenz Okotoks (AJHL)
53 Fraser Minten Kamloops (WHL)
54 Tomas Hamara Tappara (SM Liiga Jr.)
55 Isaiah George London (OHL)
56 Ryan Greene Green Bay (USHL)
57 Topi Ronni Tappara (SM Liiga Jr.)
58 Michael Buchinger Guelph (OHL)
59 Noah Warren Gatineau (QMJHL)
60 Hunter Haight Barrie (OHL)
61 Ruslan Gazizov London (OHL)
62 Tyler Brennan Prince George (WHL)
63 Aleksanteri Kaskimaki HIFK (SM Liiga Jr.)
64 Gleb Trikozov Omsk (MHL)

65 Alexander Suzdalev HV 71 (SWE J-20)
66 Otto Salin HIFK (SM Liiga Jr.)
67 Jordan Gustafson Seattle (WHL)
68 Cameron Lund Green Bay (USHL)
69 Matt Seminoff Kamloops (WHL)
70 Artyom Duda Moskva (MHL)
71 Kirill Dolzhenkov Moskva (MHL)
72 Lane Hutson USA U-18 (USHL)
73 Cruz Lucius USA U-18 (USHL)
74 Pano Fimis Niagara (OHL)
75 Spencer Sova Erie (OHL)
76 Mattias Havelid Linkoping (SWE J-20)
77 Simon Forsmark Orebro (SWE J-20)
78 Marek Hejduk USA U-18 (USHL)
79 Reid Schaefer Seattle (WHL)
80 Vinzenz Rohrer Ottawa (OHL)

HM Brennan Ali Lincoln (USHL)
HM Liam Arnsby North Bay (OHL)
HM Angus Booth Shawinigan (QMJHL)
HM Jack Devine Denver (NCAA)
HM Lucas Edmonds Kingston (OHL)
HM Jackson Edward London (OHL)
HM Jagger Firkus Moose Jaw (WHL)
HM David Goyette Sudbury (OHL)
HM Vladimir Grudinin Moskva (MHL)
HM Gavin Hayes Flint (OHL)
HM Arseni Koromyslov St. Petersburg (MHL)
HM Julian Lutz München (DEL)
HM Miko Matikka Jokerit (SM Liiga Jr.)
HM Viktor Neuchev Yekaterinburg (MHL)
HM Colton Smith London (OHL)
HM Cole Spicer USA U-18 (USHL)

I want our 8 picks in the top 64 to be these guys