Prospect Info: The 2022/2023 Prospects Thread

[Yultron]

No shade, but are you related to Lockhart by any chance?

Nope , just been following him closer since the Erie Otters drafted him 3rd overall in the OHL draft

 

[VanJack]

Lekkerimaki with four primary assists in the same period in the Allsvenskan playoffs; and Lockhart with a hat-trick in an elimination game in the OHL playoffs.

A couple of scoring wingers, albeit a little undersized, but lighting it up in the post-season. Doubt either guy gets signed before the end of next season, though.

 

[Tables of Stats]

Lekkerimaki with four primary assists in the same period in the Allsvenskan playoffs; and Lockhart with a hat-trick in an elimination game in the OHL playoffs.

A couple of scoring wingers, albeit a little undersized, but lighting it up in the post-season. Doubt either guy gets signed before the end of next season, though.

Lockhart needs to be signed this offseason or we lose his rights.

 

[Yultron]

If Lockhart continues this level of play and the Petes make the OHL finals or the memorial cup I think he has a shot at an ELC. I didn’t think he would before but if he keeps this play up I believe he has a shot at one especially in an elimination games like the other poster just mentioned

If he goes cold again in the Eastern Conference finals he will be back in junior as an overager and we will lose his rights , how he finishes the playoffs is paramount for him to get a contract

Lek will absolutely be signed by the end of next season and will be here in 2024/2025 or perhaps even the end of next season he gets some games in Abby

 

[MS]

I really love Yultron's man crush on Lockhart. Seems like such a random and unexpected prospect to Stan over, but I'm here for it.

I’m hoping he survives June 1 when Lockhart goes unsigned and the team loses his rights.

 

[Yultron]

I’m hoping he survives June 1 when Lockhart goes unsigned and the team loses his rights.

We will see , I’m prepared for any scenario ,

But then at the draft I will just find another prospect to get a man crush on if Lockhart doesn’t survive and report on that player

 

[bbud]

Removed lol other thread

 

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[Yultron]

Let the Lockhart vs Bloom commence . This is going to be a lot of fun and I cannot believe it’s actually a reality

Bloom finishes off the series with a disappointing 1 point in 7 games

I’m predicting The Petes in 6 and become the eastern conference champions

 

[Saggy]

Lockhart gas done great in the playoffs and has 8 points but is a plus 1. Bloom on the other hand has one point less (7) but is a plus 5 and has been shutting down top lines to help NB win.

Having said that, I really hope we sign Lockhart. Even though he is undersized he can skate and score. His game is much more one dimensional as compared to Bloom but well worth an ELC

Let the Lockhart vs Bloom commence . This is going to be a lot of fun and I cannot believe it’s actually a reality

Bloom finishes off the series with a disappointing 1 point in 7 games

I’m predicting The Petes in 6 and become the eastern conference champions

Going to go the other direction and say NB in 6.

Their size, depth and goaltending will get it done

 

[48MPHSlapShot]

Jonathan Lekkerimäki scores game-winning goal to keep his team alive and force a game six in Allsvenskan playoff finals

Another day, another positive Jonathan Lekkerimäki update. If he wa...

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[iceburg]

This question could probably warrant it's own thread eventually but I think it's a little early yet.

What are the odds that Raty ends up having at least equivalent NHL impact as Horvat?

Some parts of Raty's game are very enticing (shot, defensive awareness, size/strength) while some need a lot of work (skating). I remember a time when it was more hope than a guarantee that Horvat would be more than a bottom 6 centre in the NHL.
It's not a great comparison because Raty may end up having lower point totals but being a better all around centre, kinda what a 3rd line centre should be.

Nevertheless, I am just curious to watch what relative impact Raty will have in the NHL compared to Horvat. If favourable, it will change that trade from decent to a huge win.

 

[IComeInPeace]

This question could probably warrant it's own thread eventually but I think it's a little early yet.

What are the odds that Raty ends up having at least equivalent NHL impact as Horvat?

Some parts of Raty's game are very enticing (shot, defensive awareness, size/strength) while some need a lot of work (skating). I remember a time when it was more hope than a guarantee that Horvat would be more than a bottom 6 centre in the NHL.
It's not a great comparison because Raty may end up having lower point totals but being a better all around centre, kinda what a 3rd line centre should be.

Nevertheless, I am just curious to watch what relative impact Raty will have in the NHL compared to Horvat. If favourable, it will change that trade from decent to a huge win.

Raty becoming as good of a player as Bo would be a very big longshot at this point.

Bo improved his skating a lot to become the player he ended up being.
It is very rare for a player to be able to improve their skating that much. Possible, but not likely.

But, even if he can only improve his skating a little, his smarts might still allow him to be an effective 3rd line center.

 

[DonnyNucker]

I really love Yultron's man crush on Lockhart. Seems like such a random and unexpected prospect to Stan over, but I'm here for it.

It’s pretty funny as he probably has less than a 1% chance of playing a game for the Canucks but a little positivity is good once in awhile !

 

[iceburg]

Raty becoming as good of a player as Bo would be a very big longshot at this point.

Bo improved his skating a lot to become the player he ended up being.
It is very rare for a player to be able to improve their skating that much. Possible, but not likely.

But, even if he can only improve his skating a little, his smarts might still allow him to be an effective 3rd line center.

I think this is exactly what we should be projecting for him. I'm not ruling out that he could become as prolific as Horvat but, yeah, unlikely. The fact that he's still very young, and is as strong as he is, gives me some hope that he could exceed these expectations.

Add: It's why I phrased the question using "NHL impact". He might not be the scorer that Horvat is but a very good 3rd line centre can have a huge impact.

 

[m9]

This question could probably warrant it's own thread eventually but I think it's a little early yet.

What are the odds that Raty ends up having at least equivalent NHL impact as Horvat?

Some parts of Raty's game are very enticing (shot, defensive awareness, size/strength) while some need a lot of work (skating). I remember a time when it was more hope than a guarantee that Horvat would be more than a bottom 6 centre in the NHL.
It's not a great comparison because Raty may end up having lower point totals but being a better all around centre, kinda what a 3rd line centre should be.

Nevertheless, I am just curious to watch what relative impact Raty will have in the NHL compared to Horvat. If favourable, it will change that trade from decent to a huge win.

12%

 

[iceburg]

12%

Maybe in jest but probably pretty close

 

[Diversification]

12%

 

[m9]

Maybe in jest but probably pretty close

It was only half a joke as it's probably the odds I would give it. Horvat was/is a high-end 2C for a long time and it's incredibly unlikely Raty ends up there.. even though I'm a big Raty fan.

 

[alternate]

I'd be thrilled with a Bonino like impact from Raty. Be great if his skating improves enough to carry a 2nd line, but even if he becomes a solid 3C, that's a win.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

This question could probably warrant it's own thread eventually but I think it's a little early yet.

What are the odds that Raty ends up having at least equivalent NHL impact as Horvat?

Some parts of Raty's game are very enticing (shot, defensive awareness, size/strength) while some need a lot of work (skating). I remember a time when it was more hope than a guarantee that Horvat would be more than a bottom 6 centre in the NHL.
It's not a great comparison because Raty may end up having lower point totals but being a better all around centre, kinda what a 3rd line centre should be.

Nevertheless, I am just curious to watch what relative impact Raty will have in the NHL compared to Horvat. If favourable, it will change that trade from decent to a huge win.

He might turn into the guy Bo was supposed to be… a defensively solid 3C who can step up to 2C when necessary.
But that skating will have to improve if he’s going to be an NHL’er at all.

 

[TomWillander1RD]

We've seen Horvat greatly improving his skating, so sometimes, we may expect another player could make the same level of improvement. I believe Horvat's early struggle with skating was worsened by additional weight he put on (Boeser syndrome) and lack of conditioning. He wasn't a burner but his skating looked okay in juniors.

Raty is already slim so I don't think we can expect as much improvement with his skating.

 

[MS]

This question could probably warrant it's own thread eventually but I think it's a little early yet.

What are the odds that Raty ends up having at least equivalent NHL impact as Horvat?

Some parts of Raty's game are very enticing (shot, defensive awareness, size/strength) while some need a lot of work (skating). I remember a time when it was more hope than a guarantee that Horvat would be more than a bottom 6 centre in the NHL.
It's not a great comparison because Raty may end up having lower point totals but being a better all around centre, kinda what a 3rd line centre should be.

Nevertheless, I am just curious to watch what relative impact Raty will have in the NHL compared to Horvat. If favourable, it will change that trade from decent to a huge win.

Horvat was a better NHL player at age 19 than Raty is an AHL player at age 20.

 

[iceburg]

He might turn into the guy Bo was supposed to be… a defensively solid 3C who can step up to 2C when necessary.
But that skating will have to improve if he’s going to be an NHL’er at all.

It's interesting, Horvat's skating had people slotting him in at the 3C position. There wasn't really anything at the junior level that would project to be solid defensively at the pro level.
In the end Horvat exceeded expectations from an offensive standpoint but never really established himself as a solid defensive player.
Raty is kinda the opposite based on his development path to date. He is solid defensively but doesn't project to be a big offensive contributor at the NHL level. His skating needs to improve and he does have some offeisnve skills. We'll see.

 

[iceburg]

Horvat was a better NHL player at age 19 than Raty is an AHL player at age 20.

Better? Or more impactful? Nobody expects Raty to score 30 goals (though, given his age that remains a possibility at least). Horvat has now been a #1/#2 centre on 2 teams because he can score and is good on the draw. Raty will likely top out as a 3C but could be a strong match-up guy and decent PKer. His smarts should allow him to do better at those aspects of the game than Horvat.
We'll see in a couple of years how each case translates to winning. Again it's not probable that Raty is the more impactful player but I think it's a deeper question than scoring and being good on draws.

It was only half a joke as it's probably the odds I would give it. Horvat was/is a high-end 2C for a long time and it's incredibly unlikely Raty ends up there.. even though I'm a big Raty fan.

As above, I highly doubt Raty becomes a high end 2C but, in terms of impact, he could be a really important piece.