Discussion in 'Buffalo Sabres' started by Chainshot, Jul 5, 2018.
Could you trade 12th,17th and 28th overall for a top 5 pick?
Here's how trading 12th/17th/28th for 5th worked out since 2003.
Vanek - Jessiman/Parise/Perry
Wheeler - Thelen/Schwarz/Fistric
Price - M Staal/Hanzal/Niskanen
Kessel - Little/Lewis/N Foligno
Alzner - McDonaugh/Cherepanov/Petrecki
Schenn - Myers/Gardiner/Tikhonov
B Schenn - De Haan/Rundblad/Olsen
Neiderreiter - Fowler/Hishon/Coyle
Strome - R Murphy/Beaulieu/Z Phillips
Rielly - Grigorenko/Hertl/Skjei
Lindholm - Domi/Lazar/Klimchuk
Dal Colle - Perlini/Sanheim/Ho Sang
Hanifin - Gurianov/Connor/Beauvillier
Juolevi - McLeod/Fabbro/Johansen
Pettersson - Necas/Liljegren/Bowers
There is no history in the NHL of a team trading out of a top 5 pick for a package of just later picks.
If a top 10 pick moves, it is almost always in a deal for a player and not picks.
Why on earth would you?
the possibility of this
Pettersson - Necas/Liljegren/Bowers
Ok lol. That’s a narrow minded view. You are way better off having three darts then one when you are talking 17 year old hockey players. Having a scouting department who actually is competent is way more important then where you pick.
Teams picking around 5 will rather have one almost certain to be extremely good piece than 3 chance to be really good pieces.
That is why teams have never traded back like that in recent NHL history.
You are good with 3 first round picks
Unless you are the 2015 Bruins
Historically, teams with 3 1st rd picks in the same draft have done poorly
Historically teams who sit first in the NHL by the end of November haven't missed the playoffs so I hope there is some balance in the Hockeyverse with Buf 3 picks
Well, arguably the best any team has ever done with 3 1st round picks is the 1982 Sabres (Housley, Cyr, Andreychuk). So, maybe this is kind of our thing?
Who thought that drafting a great player can become such a pain many years later.
Or the '89 Leafs, or the '97 Kings. Or the '82 and '83 Sabres.
Having three is no guarantee of good quality development outcomes. It actually seems to be the opposite.
I mean, the Sabres got two hall of famers in one draft in 1982. That’s....pretty good.
And it took trading both of them to get out of the first round of the playoffs again after Phil’s rookie season.
I mean, ok, but it was a good draft.
I wonder if it messes with the scouting departments philosophy and they don’t put the work in like they would with just one pick.
With the three firsts, I’d like to see something like:
I’m on the complete other side I think.
Give me 3 of Caufield, Brink, Robertson, Pelletier
Still want Nolan Foote regardless. Cant teach bloodlines or size and his offense has been adequate too. If we pick three times and don't take him I'll be mad.
Take the best USNTDP player available.
The dream is that they have Turcotte (injury concern) and Caufield (size concern) fall to them.
And if Zegras is there, you know Captain Jack would approve of adding another Terrier to the organization.
The NHL play style swings. I don’t want to get caught with another 2010 team full of mini notes while the league is trending big. I’d rather just draft balanced.
I’m just thinking that organizationally we have **** for skill.
Edit: But I agree in principal. I think that in a few years the NHL will be trending after the Winnipeg build. Long, fast and physical.
Olofsson and Asplund are coming, and they aren’t giants. I’d rather go get a skilled forward like Leason who can hold his own, than another sub 5-10 player.
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