OT: Teh Philadelphia Severty Sixers: We're Stil Doing This For JS’s Goodest and Bestest Boy

[DancingPanther]

I still think it's Brooklyn, but my reaction will be entirely based around what the pluses are. Maxey's too much unless it guts the pick requirements.



A very, very good set of points here.

This is going to end really terribly for us, I'm confident

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

It's a star league and Harden is a much bigger star than Simmons so go for it. I despise watching James Harden play basketball but it is what it is. It'll get them closer to winning a championship than keeping Ben around.

Now the outside pieces besides those two is where it gets murky.

In the end the whole thing probably ends up terribly for the organization and the city but oh well. Shoot your shot.

Letting Harden go to the Nets will gut them entirely in the future which is good but you're also not beating them during Embiid's prime then under any circumstance. EDIT: You shouldn't necessarily operate an organization with that line of thinking but as Mr. Black said, I don't trust Embiid's health long term so push the pieces to the middle and play them as they lie.

 

[Halladay]

One is a great role player, the other is one of the greatest offensive players of all time. I'm also looking at this from an Embiid angle, I have no confidence in his long term health, so go all in. I also recognize this could implode badly.

I live in Houston so I've followed the Rockets a bit. No matter who they have paired James with, it doesn't work. I dont see that changing here. I think many underestimate how valuable Ben is. I do understand about maximizing Joel and his short time span, I just don't think Harden is the answer.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

 

[Embiid]

It's a star league and Harden is a much bigger star than Simmons so go for it. I despise watching James Harden play basketball but it is what it is. It'll get them closer to winning a championship than keeping Ben around.

Now the outside pieces besides those two is where it gets murky.

In the end the whole thing probably ends up terribly for the organization and the city but oh well. Shoot your shot.

Letting Harden go to the Nets will gut them entirely in the future which is good but you're also not beating them during Embiid's prime then under any circumstance.

Pretty much this ^

It's all because Simmons refuses to take the next step from All Star to superstar. Last night really pissed me off with him...

 

[Embiid]

This is going to end really terribly for us, I'm confident

Possibly.....if it happens it won't be so bad. I mean if Embiid goes down long term...we can't really rely on Simmons to take us over the top. Not sure we can with Harden either but he is a legit superstar. I'm not without concern but not like we can control any of this...

 

[DancingPanther]

It's a star league and Harden is a much bigger star than Simmons so go for it. I despise watching James Harden play basketball but it is what it is. It'll get them closer to winning a championship than keeping Ben around.

Now the outside pieces besides those two is where it gets murky.

In the end the whole thing probably ends up terribly for the organization and the city but oh well. Shoot your shot.

Letting Harden go to the Nets will gut them entirely in the future which is good but you're also not beating them during Embiid's prime then under any circumstance. EDIT: You shouldn't necessarily operate an organization with that line of thinking but as Mr. Black said, I don't trust Embiid's health long term so push the pieces to the middle and play them as they lie.

Who exactly does Harris, Embiid, and Harden beat? With one or both of Thybulle and Maxey shipped out? Miss me with that shit. Has no one learned what having no depth does to a team? That's been the achilles heel of this team all through the Process years, thanks to Colangelo and Brand bonehead moves. Would be a horrible move.

 

[Embiid]

This is gonna be costly....if it goes poorly we may not even have drafts to look forward to. Blaming Simmons and the Fultz bad luck for all of this (although we got Maxey out of Fultz's trade to leverage). We don't have many options with Embiid's short window which could close at any time..

 

[Halladay]

This is going to end badly. Going to lose to Boston again in the 2nd round. Would have been better off keeping Jimmy.

 

[The Madrigal]

Simmons is the same player he was as a rookie. If they can get Harden for him, MT, and picks that's an easy yes for the Sixers.

 

[Embiid]

Hopefully they throw in Harris....pick up something else that is still useful and gives us cap space. Doubt Houston will do it though but I am sure Morey is trying to unload Harris' contract at the expense of picks but maybe cap space for free agency purposes...or another trade. I'm sure Morey has a plan with many moving pieces.

 

[trigzter]

I'd only offer Ben. Maybe picks but I'd be keeping my depth for 2 years down the line when harden leaves. Plus it's covid season guys are gonna miss games we need extra bodies for when that happens

 

[Embiid]

I'd only offer Ben. Maybe picks but I'd be keeping my depth for 2 years down the line when harden leaves. Plus it's covid season guys are gonna miss games we need extra bodies for when that happens

Unfortunately that won't work with the Nets going for broke as well...

 

[trigzter]

Then no harden for me. Let the nets overpay for him

 

[BigToe]

I trust whatever Morey does, but I’m scared.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I trust whatever Morey does, but I’m scared.

It may or may not work, but it really is nice to just have some trust that things will make sense in the end.

 

[Les Averman]

This post from Mike O'Connor sums it all up well and is where I tend to fall:

If you’re simply a huge Simmon fan, or you hate Harden as a person/player, or simply don’t want another huge roster shakeup for the 10th time in three years, I get it. You are free to root for your team in any way you want. But if your sole objective is seeing a banner raised in the Wells Fargo Center, trading for James Harden is undeniably the correct move.

Trading For James Harden Is The Right Thing For The Sixers — Rights To Ricky Sanchez

I can't stand Harden's personality as much as the next guy and he's realistically in my top 3 guys that I do not want to root for in the league. I also have my doubts that guys like him can win it all, but you have to be lying to yourself if you truly believe that this team is going to get it done the way that they're built now.

I personally would not be in favor of trading Maxey, but I would drive Thybulle and Simmons to the airport myself because Simmons has shown that he's not changing offensively and Thybulle is at the bottom of the rotation with serious questions about his offensive abilities. Unless this team get's a true perimeter creator, the team isn't making it any further than they have in the past, and the only way they're getting a perimeter star is by trading Simmons. In a perfect world, could they figure out a way to somehow trade for McCollum or Beal rather than Harden? Absolutely but those guys aren't just readily available for trade.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Thanks John,

 

[rinaldo]

harden is a cancer, no thanks. Not a winner, keep him away

 

[Halladay]

Thanks John,

I just saw another tweet he wants to go to Brooklyn.

I like Ben, but im not against trading him. Just not for Harden.

 

[Cody Webster]

Thanks John,

So he doesn't want to play for the Sixers when they move to Camden?

 

[Cody Webster]

Just imagine how fat Embiid is going to get if Harden comes here

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Just imagine how fat Embiid is going to get if Harden comes here

Well he hasn’t fallen in love with Kardashians with Ben here so... maybe we’re safe.

 

[Embiid]

Pronger was said to be a cancer...if it wasn't for Leighton and a unfortunate eye injury we would have been on the right side of history.....but we came up short. We may again with this move if it works in the Sixers favor but to me it is obvious we have to go for it or we will just continue to be assured of falling short.

 

[Jack Straw]

Houston is pursuing

Read it the way it's written.