Ted Leonsis: We will do everything to help Ovi to beat Gretzky's goals record

[Olddays73]

It's called accountability. It's what leaders do. Samsonov earned the ire if you read up on some of the crap he pulled last year.

Leaders don't put their teammates down in public. That is not a good thing, and after that incident Samsonov looked nervous every time he came out to play the puck.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Leaders don't put their teammates down in public. That is not a good thing, and after that incident Samsonov looked nervous every time he came out to play the puck.

Agree or disagree - that's not the point. The point is, these are not the actions of a guy who doesn't care if his team wins.

 

[Olddays73]

Agree or disagree - that's not the point. The point is, these are not the actions of a guy who doesn't care if his team wins.

No question he wants to win.

 

[Confused Turnip]

I guess it’s worth mentioning, 14 pages in, that it was a single throwaway line from Leonsis in the middle of an hour-long roundtable interview and press conference. Pretty sure he was answering a question specifically about the record. It was about keeping the team competitive.

Yeah if you watch/read the full press conference there were like 90 mentions of how cups are the goal and this was in answer to a specific question. But toying with the ovi hating cartoons is a good way to kill some time and have a chuckle. Just read a panther or moropanov post and tell me you don't smile.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Leaders don't put their teammates down in public. That is not a good thing, and after that incident Samsonov looked nervous every time he came out to play the puck.

Complete softball nonsense disproven in literally every sport at the highest level.

 

[Olddays73]

Complete softball nonsense disproven in literally every sport at the highest level.

Not nonsense at all. Humiliating a teammate after a genuine mistake resulting not from a lack of effort, especially in front of millions of viewers nationwide is not the way to motivate, or get tbe player to perform better.
At least not in most cases. There are much better ways and if you think that is Nonsense, how many other NHL leaders have yelled at their teammates on live TV after an honest mistake in the playoffs, and seen their teammates performance improve? Please give me some examples.

 

[Picklepete]

I just want to see Don Cherry's reaction when Ovi breaks it..
Lol.. That should finally shut him up.. Lol

 

[Picklepete]

Leo

Leonsis should be saying he'll do anything to help his team advance past the 2nd round of the playoffs .
16 seasons with Ovechkin as the teams so called leader and 15 times have failed to advance past the 2nd rd.
it's nothing but failure and it will be a part of Ovechkin's Legacy as much as his goal scoring ability.

If it doesn't bother Habs fans that they won 85% of their Cups with only 6 damn teams ,AND control of Quebec players.. then I dont think Ovi cares either !

 

[Picklepete]

But he also doesn't get checked, high sticked, hooked, or pushed into the glass or into the ice like they did in the 80s either, so i guess he doesn't get the wear n tear either.

Gretzky didn't either !
He always had his protection when he was on the ice..
At least Mario & Ovi could play physically..

 

[Iapyi]

Ovy's been 98% of game's hes played in NHL just about getting goals for himself his playstyle isnt optimal for winning thats for sure. Guy like Kopitar is much much more valuable player to team eventough Ovy gets much glory for floating around and just shooting. I think Ovechkin is well suited for Usa's sport culture fans arent so knowledgeable about hockey they dont understand details of game, but its easy to see Ovechkin slap goals its harder for them to understand greatness of lets say Lidström Kopitar or even Datsyuk who was very flashy with his stickhandling, but still fans dont respect those little details what makes them hockey masterminds. Ovechkin is bit of a cult think American star culture think. Fans come to see this guy slap goals he sells jersey's etc, but in the end isnt very good player does he make team better i think not.. More healthy playing stragedy that uses players more well roundly is better suited for winning championships Ovy is negative impact player for Wsh.

Great summary of the reality of the Ovechkin cultists.

 

[Iapyi]

Gretzky didn't either !
He always had his protection when he was on the ice..
At least Mario & Ovi could play physically..

Never saw him play did you.

 

[Picklepete]

Never saw him play did you.

I'm 64 & saw his whole career, & he was one of my favs.
But he was pretty much a finesse game with no physicality and that's why I like guys like Mario Lemieux and OVI more so..
With Ovi their is a Russian bias without a doubt tho.

 

[Iapyi]

I'm 64 & saw his whole career, & he was one of my favs.
But he was pretty much a finesse game with no physicality and that's why I like guys like Mario Lemieux and OVI more so..
With Ovi their is a Russian bias without a doubt tho.

He certainly had no physicality in terms of initiating contact.

Mario really never did either though he would get pissed off sometimes and be prepared to engage.

Ovechkin was certainly the most robust of the 3 and it was great when he stopped with the dirty hits but in fact he is no where near the level of player of the other 2 and this has nothing to do with any bias, it is flat out reality.

There is more anti-Canada bias on this forum than anything else and I think we can all agree on that.

 

[Confused Turnip]

I just want to see Don Cherry's reaction when Ovi breaks it..
Lol.. That should finally shut him up.. Lol

As much as Don tended to shit on European players and hated Ovi's flashiness early on, I think by the end he had rather grown to like both him and Malkin. Not long before Ovi won the cup Don went on one of his rants saying Ovi was the only guy trying on the team and if everyone played like him they'd win the cup every year. He was also one of the first people to rip on the top 100 thing. He slapped everyone who blamed Ovi for fighting Svech. Etc. I think Don would enjoy it a lot more than half the posters on this site.

 

[Weztex]

If it doesn't bother Habs fans that they won 85% of their Cups with only 6 damn teams ,AND control of Quebec players.. then I dont think Ovi cares either !

Out topic but Montreal never had control of Quebec players.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

You mean the goalies that didn't take up half the net with their body and another quarter of it with oversized equipment?

That AND an immense skill difference.

Look at how a lot of his goals were scored during his seasons with the most goals scored. Embarrassingly bad goaltending.

 

[TKB]

For a sentence with so many statements on fact in it, it's impressive that almost every single one of them isn't true. Bossy never even played in the league in his 30s. Lemieux's last 50 goal season came at age 31 and he only paced anywhere near there one more time.

And also ignoring the state of Gretzky's back.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Never saw him play did you.

Definitely did, there was more open ice than ever before in his era and the defensemen were pylons who fell down with one juke. Gretzky wasn't hit much at all.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

He certainly had no physicality in terms of initiating contact.

Mario really never did either though he would get pissed off sometimes and be prepared to engage.

Ovechkin was certainly the most robust of the 3 and it was great when he stopped with the dirty hits but in fact he is no where near the level of player of the other 2 and this has nothing to do with any bias, it is flat out reality.

There is more anti-Canada bias on this forum than anything else and I think we can all agree on that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

And I'm Canadian, I'm dying.

 

[McFlash97]

Considering the absolute plug defencemen, horrible team systems and trash goalies Gretzky scored most his goals against, Ovechkin beating him will be one of the most insane feats in pro sports - ever.

This here will be the reason why Gretzky will never be topped. You knew tail chasers in the east will start bragging about OV the minute he had a chance. Gretzky would bounce pucks off OV's helmet in his prime. Lol f***ing one dimensional power play specialist.

 

[filinski77]

This here will be the reason why Gretzky will never be topped. You knew tail chasers in the east will start bragging about OV the minute he had a chance. Gretzky would bounce pucks off OV's helmet in his prime. Lol f***ing one dimensional power play specialist.

No idea why you're getting so salty. Of course the post that you're responding to is ridiculous, but why do you need to continue with the idiocy?

Of course Gretzky is a much better overall player than Ovechkin (anyone who says otherwise is a moron). But if Ovechkin matches Gretzky's goal totals, it will objectively be a much more impressive goalscoring accomplishment, since players in Gretzky's era objectively scored more goals on average.

 

[Iapyi]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

And I'm Canadian, I'm dying.

Laugh all you want the truth is the truth.

You being Canadian changes nothing as we are known for eating our own and begrudging our own nation's success.

We see far more 'good ole Canadian boy' negative comments than anything denouncing Europeans or Americans.

We see numerous posts about the Canadian media when in fact they are far more inclusive of other nations than what we would see from any other countries media, if the other countries even happen to mention hockey. If it's so bad why do these posters even watch it and not focus on their own countries coverage.

Matter of fact how many posts do you ever see saying anything derogatory about anything other then Canadian? How many 'soft' or 'lazy' European posts can you honestly say you see on this site? Maybe they're there and I just don't see them?

I implore you to be open minded about this.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

This here will be the reason why Gretzky will never be topped. You knew tail chasers in the east will start bragging about OV the minute he had a chance. Gretzky would bounce pucks off OV's helmet in his prime. Lol f***ing one dimensional power play specialist.

ovy would've scored 150 goals per season in the 80s.

 

[Olddays73]

ovy would've scored 150 goals per season in the 80s.

Not a chance. Jagr, who scored over 50 goals in a season overlapping Ovechkin's prime, always was outscored in the 90s by Mario in every season where both were healthy (or in gpg, ppg) and even Mario never scored above 90 goals in the 80s.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Not a chance. Jagr, who scored over 50 goals in a season overlapping Ovechkin's prime, always was outscored in the 90s by Mario in every season where both were healthy (or in gpg, ppg) and even Mario never scored above 90 goals in the 80s.

None of them had a shot even close to Ovechkin's. He is the best goal scorer of all time. Not yet in number of goals scored, but in pure goal-scoring skill.