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just an FYI, Friendman expects Zuc to cost a 2nd + prospect, similar to Grabner
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just an FYI, Friendman expects Zuc to cost a 2nd + prospect, similar to Grabner
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Was looking at a Kreider to Oilers thread on the Trade boards and saw this.
If that is what they realistically think of Klefbom and Larsson, I think they are going to be in trouble for a while. I think Nurse is definitely a 2nd pairing D-man but not quite sure I would call him a #2 or #3.
If that is what they realistically think of Klefbom and Larsson, I think they are going to be in trouble for a while. I think Nurse is definitely a 2nd pairing D-man but not quite sure I would call him a #2 or #3.
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This trade deadline really seems like a buyers market. I think prices will come down all but the best players. Hopefully this works in the Sharks favor.
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It definitely seems like a buyers market. But it is kind of funny, because the way fans of the selling teams are talking, everyone is worth atleast a 1st round pick and a B prospect.
Sharksrule04
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Braun is worth mid to high end 2nd round pick in my mind. Labanc is in the same area I think due to age. The guy is early 20's and still on pace for 45-50 points.
Sharksrule04
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Kreider is prob tops on my list due to all factors. I think he'd be great for the Sharks, but I don't see why the Rangers would trade him.
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General question. How do most GM's evaluate prospects?
Eg: Checkhovich has lit up the Q this year and is leading in points. But he was drafted in the 7th round. Or Chmelevski, who was also drafted in the 6th round but lit up the World Juniors and has done fairly well on the 67's after his slow start.
So how do you rate the 3 based on what they have showed since they got drafted?
Eg: Checkhovich has lit up the Q this year and is leading in points. But he was drafted in the 7th round. Or Chmelevski, who was also drafted in the 6th round but lit up the World Juniors and has done fairly well on the 67's after his slow start.
So how do you rate the 3 based on what they have showed since they got drafted?
Sharksrule04
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Boyle absolutely belongs on that list for two reasons, he was great as a Sharks d-man and we stole that trade.
Boyle although good was never great like a burns, karlsson, thornton was.
Boyle in his entire time with san jose 269 points.
Burns in just the past 4 of his 8 years in san jose 270 points and still climbing with 30 or so games left on the season.
Boyle in his entire time with san jose 269 points.
Burns in just the past 4 of his 8 years in san jose 270 points and still climbing with 30 or so games left on the season.
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Boyle was such a puck hog, but he was fun to watch. Such a fierce competitor. He just doesn't hold a candle to Burns and now Karlsson.
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I think it's more of on general performance and potential. Honestly though I'm talking out of my ass a bit.
Sharksrule04
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Who cares, he was a high-end d-man that we got for basically nothing. Everyone is nit-picking here. The original poster didn't say anything about HOF players, he/she simply listed a bunch of very good players the Sharks acquired for a lot of nothing. Boyle 100% should be added to that list. He averaged 51 points and 13 goals per 82 games with the Sharks and was probably the first top level PP QB/Offensive D-man we had since Ozolinsh. In his first two seasons with SJ he finished 5th and 6th in Norris voting and received Norris votes in each of his first 4 seasons with the Sharks.
I wouldn't add Heatley there because Michalek was a good player and went the other way combined with Heatley having a very small sample of success in SJ.
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Seriously. I would have loved Nino in our top-6. Wonder if Coyle will be moved too. Would love to have him back in our top-6. Bump Radil down to the 3rd line.
Nino makes 5.25 million a season for 3 more years, we can’t really fit him in going forward with Karlsson and everyone else without moving even more salary.
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True....he's not worth that when we have Timo.
Krieder would be dope AF though
Really that was the main point of my list... Trades where the sharks got an elite level talent for peanuts. Saying Boyle shouldn't be included is frankly ridiculous. He was the first true #1 D-man the Sharks had. I don't count Ozo because he sucked at D and had to be sheltered.
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Wasn't he typically top 5 for D-men scoring for the first 5 years he was with the Sharks? He was a puck hog because he was better than most of the other players on the team. He knew he and Jumbo had to carry those weaker rosters.
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Ya, and watching him still try to play his game when he came back from concussion too early was so sad. You just knew he shouldn't be out there, but he tried anyways.
Boyle first 4 seasons in SJ... 57(6th), 58(3rd), 50(8th), 48(8th) points as a D-man. After that he took a nose dive but that may have coincided with him getting hurt. He was never the same after that one hit by some Canuck player. Heater played 2 seasons in SJ. Best season he was on a line with Jumbo and Patty in their prime.
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lapierre while he was with the blues if i remember right
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I kinda thought I just watched somebody die on ice that night.
Off topic: Saw a couple bottles of Yamazaki 18 yesterday, both $800+
On topic: That was horrendous to see.
Did he used to be a canuck? (EDIT: yes, 3 seasons prior to the Blues). Yeah it was horrible. I seem to remember he was always a cheap f***.
BTW, he only got 5 games for that hit... wow.
Dan Boyle stretchered off ice after check from behind by Blues’ Lapierre (Video)
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